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more magny cours....
« on: October 26, 2012, 07:42:37 AM »
till you guys decide if a sohc can make it, enjoy this HQ stuff

just 312 photos, link to more pages at the very bottom

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jano2106/sets/72157631841630437/


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Re: more magny cours....
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 09:05:22 AM »
Thank's Yossef, some nice pics there. 8) 8)

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Re: more magny cours....
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 11:35:47 AM »
one of the more shocking things to me is the level of preparation of some of the teams, not just the bikes.

have look at shots where you see the pits, its like MotoGP: bike lifts, tons of tool chests and spares on rollers... and you'd think vintage racing is cheap...

I'll stick to my trailer, gazebo and Subaru station wagon for the time being :)

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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 12:24:35 PM »
Agree TG, am also afraid they will be victim of their own succes and within a short while it'll become too expensive (again).
Better sorry for failing then for the lack of trying.

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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 01:04:43 PM »
does this one belong to anybody we know?


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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2012, 05:40:08 PM »
Thanks for posting tg, some really interesting pieces of machinery.  The Konig 500 was interesting, have only seen that being used in sidecars.  Have always wanted a CBX, and that Martin framed one is to lust after.
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Re: more magny cours....
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2012, 12:32:30 PM »
Thanks for the pics Tg. I'm in the process of building a kr1000 replica out of a gpz900. An am always on the lookout for new pics. 

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Re: more magny cours....
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2012, 08:47:24 AM »
Thanks for the pics Tg. I'm in the process of building a kr1000 replica out of a gpz900. An am always on the lookout for new pics. 
Thought KR1000, i.e. the kawasaki france works enduranc ebikes were KZ1000 based not GPZ900....
Finding myself digging deeper into this Gpz thing, through racing a 750 and possibly next season a 550...

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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2012, 09:53:58 AM »
yes i thought they where based on the air cooled engine as well , any way proper kr kawasaki's look more like this

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Re: more magny cours....
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2012, 02:38:26 PM »
You are right a real kr1000 was based off of the old z900. But I found a dead gpz900 that I bought for next to nothing an am doing a frame up restore. Part of the reason the gpz was so cheap was that it did not come with any plastics. So I am reskining the bike with a kr1000 front fairing, seat, an belly pan. The build is on my tumblr  page.  B A S Motors

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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2012, 08:15:19 AM »
the kr250-350 took the championships, but my favorite kr was the monocoque 500, there's one in italy that regularly shows up in our meetings, beautiful!

the 900 was all conquering in production racing but that motor arrived in the wrong timing for TT F1, they switched to 750's at around 84'

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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2012, 11:06:29 AM »
That right the gpz900 raced at the 1984 TT an won the production title that year. An it seamed that right after they lowered the displacement to 750cc. So really that is the only pro level race that the gpz participated in. An to the plastic model, that is a 1983 model Kr1000. The Kr1000's of 1981 an 82 had the half fairings an belly pans

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Re: more magny cours....
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2012, 02:27:57 PM »
the plastic model is a kr250/350 two stroke tandem twin ;)


but this one is proper inspiration :)

http://kzrider.com/forum/25-racing/512102-sweetest-zee-racer


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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2012, 03:51:05 PM »
just an old road bike in drag tg !

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Re: more magny cours....
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2012, 06:40:49 AM »
Im sorry, I thought that was the kr1000 model. Now that race bike you posted is beautiful. What year engine is in it? Is it air cooled or water cooled?  That's the biggest problem with racing in the states is its almost exclusively stock based. That bike most likely would not be legal to race here. An what a shame.

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Re: more magny cours....
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2012, 06:48:08 AM »
Well should have looked up the kr250 first I see now that it was made for  GP so maybe that special build would be legal in racing in the US. Now I'm curious in trying to find one. Were they brought into the states. Or a European model only.

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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2012, 07:04:27 AM »
Eddie Lawson raced a KR250 at Daytona (and even a KR500), cant recall if it happened more than once, but the bike certainly made it to the USA too.

The bike i linked to is a PEM framed KZ1000, from the early eighties, an offcial works kawasaki france endurance bike.
Not an expert on big Kaws but its certainly air-cooled , looks to me like the late, so called J motor...

The "Formula 1" class of late 70's-early 80's in the USA allowed pretty much anything with a motor and two wheels, problem with it was the dominance of the TZ750's, they didnt leave too much chance to anything four stroke.




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Re: more magny cours....
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2012, 11:27:07 AM »
lawson won the ama championship on a kr in80 and 81 , he also won daytona twice in the same years . gregg Hansford won daytona in 78 on a kr . there where loads of different variants in the states , a belt driven one , one with a single shock on one side and another with a really weird parallelogram rear swing arm that was called FUBAR . lawson said it stood for f*cked up beyond all recognition .

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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2012, 05:07:12 PM »
Denis Curtis does a KR replica frame (mid 70's, lay down stocks) for the H2 triple.  It's vintage racing legal, and he also does one for the Suzuki GT750 engine.

Would look alot like this all kitted out -
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2012, 05:44:36 PM »
The H2R's then those KR's were hot looking race bikes and fast as hell. DuHamel was my local hero. I always felt bad for he & Art Baumann in those early days. They were fast guys but those bikes.......man they wouldn't stay together.

Like TG said when the big TZ's happened along, that was all she wrote.

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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2012, 06:00:08 PM »
Thought you'd P/U on the DuHamel name on the fairing bw.  Of course the son wasn't half bad himself. ;) :)
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2012, 10:34:17 AM »
Thought you'd P/U on the DuHamel name on the fairing bw.  Of course the son wasn't half bad himself. ;) :)

yes like kenny roberts , the son was good but not as good as dad .

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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2012, 11:52:15 AM »
yes i thought they where based on the air cooled engine as well , any way proper kr kawasaki's look more like this
Does that have 2 or 4 valves per cylinder Simon? ;) ;D ;D
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