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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #50 on: November 01, 2012, 07:11:48 PM »
our thoughts and prayers are with every family that is affected by that monstrosity of a storm.  God Bless.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #51 on: November 02, 2012, 06:17:18 AM »
It looks that way.  The good news is that it just employed every laid off lineman in the Northeast.

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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2012, 06:17:37 AM »
Sounds like a system currently off the Pacific coast is going to progress east forming a low running up the east coast mid-week. Not as severe as Sandy, but they don 't need this.  :-\
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2012, 10:17:56 AM »
Has anyone heard from members that would have been in harms way?
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2012, 11:15:23 AM »
I live in Hoboken, NJ and just got power back 12 hours ago.  My wife's Mazda3 and my VFR800 were both lost in the flood.  I moved the vehicles to what I thought was dry ground in a parking garage, but found them in 3 feet of water by 10PM on Monday night.

I've spend the last 120 hours dealing with pools of sewage, dragging boats out of yards, hunting for gas.  The most taxing event was yesterday when I pulled a man out of a flipped car on the NJ Turnpike.  Watching his car roll just behind mine at 65mph while gas cans flew from the car was a very real moment.

I would also like to say that my boy scout training has helped keep my family safe through this ordeal.  Through all of this, I am glad to have everyone alive and well.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2012, 01:12:25 PM »
Dan, good to hear you are OK, sorry about the cars. I am up north of you in Westchester and we have no power but luckily we are up high in this area. Yes my power has been off all week came back at 3 pm today. Gas is still a problem.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2012, 02:52:12 PM »
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I would also like to say that my boy scout training has helped keep my family safe through this ordeal.

How so? I 'd be interested to know.

I was born and raised on the south shore of Long Island. I suspect the barrier islands there have been reshaped considerably by this storm.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #57 on: November 04, 2012, 04:40:54 PM »
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I would also like to say that my boy scout training has helped keep my family safe through this ordeal.

How so? I 'd be interested to know.

Excellent questions.  Since I have a moment, here is a long answer.

Be prepared: simply having kerosene lanterns, axes, flashlights is step one.  Knowing how to purify water and ration food was key.  Just having the practice at leading others when you're tired, cold and hungry is huge.

Here is a list the merit badges that related to my week of activity:
Emergency Preparedness (dealing with electric & flooding)
First Aid (rescued a man in a flipped car surrounded by gas while ensuring safety to a potentially broken neck)
Safety (directed people where to look for shelters)
Pioneering (had to tow a car with adequate rope and a knot that would hold)
Citizenship in the Community (helping others understand how the govt will proceed w/ local relief effort)

Check this out, as one example:
http://meritbadge.org/wiki/index.php/Emergency_Preparedness

Hoboken is filled with wonderful people.  Many very smart and otherwise competent people were dumbfounded because they only know how to handle urban lives.  Having a week without utilities was just like being at camp or trekking through the Adirondacks, so I was glad to have the experience.

I was born and raised on the south shore of Long Island. I suspect the barrier islands there have been reshaped considerably by this storm.

Not sure about Long Island, but the NJ barrier islands are practically wasteland at the moment.
Dan
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #58 on: November 04, 2012, 04:48:09 PM »
Thanks for the details,  hope things get back to normal in your community ASAP.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #59 on: November 05, 2012, 05:17:57 PM »
If anyone doubts how Americans come together when things go bad, there was a story on the news about how average people are coming into the area with supplies from all over. Texas, Tenn, Georgia and other points south and West bringing in Tents and Sleeping bags. One Ole Boy from Georgia has set up a Grits station and is feeding people all day and night. It;s his Grandmas secret recipe of course. :D   
Looting has been very minimal, but in some neighborhoods people are walking the neighborhood. Several miscreants have been "counseled". I expect one or more of these #$%*s will get shot, no real loss to Society. People get testy when people who have lost everything have someone try and take whatever is left.
 
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2012, 05:27:45 PM »
I dare to say the population in Sandy's path is different from the Katrina area - one of the reason for the current situation.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2012, 06:44:30 PM »
I would imagine the area may be more affluent. We were seriously unprepared for this type of Storm. Most of our bad weather is snow related. Lower Manhattan and Long Island is totally unprotected from the weather as is a lot of the Jersey shore.

If I take you another way the answer is both yes and no. We have some rough spots.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #62 on: November 05, 2012, 08:16:41 PM »
We have some rough spots.

Rough around the edges is part of what makes this country great!

So sorry for ALL those that have been affected and hopes for a rapid recovery to some semblance of normalcy.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #63 on: November 05, 2012, 10:57:34 PM »
G'Day Guys, sorry I haven't added my condolences and good wishes as appropriate before now, but I have been thinking about you all. All the best guys, and I hope things get back to normal quickly.

If nothing else, as has been said earlier, there's a lot of reconstruction opportunitys out there for folks currently out of work, so that's gotta be a good thing I guess? Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2012, 05:11:16 PM »
Well ,it's been 15 months since my area was wiped out by Irene, I need to tell you survivors( The  ones who will stay and rebuild) What you can expect  as it is happening here .
  The economic boom will be for lumber yards and some contractors who's customers were insured.
For those in areas where homeowners were not insured or underinsured, you will find that  volunteers from all aver the country will be there to clean up damage to property. But it doesn't stop there , they will basically if you can wait long enough, rebuild allot of the damage to  damaged homes. Sounds good for the uninsured, but these volunteers will be with you for at least a year, and then those who can afford to have the work done by a professional contractor will think that they can get their work done for nothing,leaving local contractors in the cold ,watching what would have been a job that would contribute the local economic redevelopment, be given to church groups that would not only do the labor for free, they also get materials  trucked in from an outside source,not locally, further unstimulating your local economy.
   FEMA... will be offering buyouts on properties. people , when FEMA buys any property anywhere, it turns into public land. Doesn't matter if it was the house next door to you, it'll be  public land, never again saleable, buildable, or taxable. These properties can only become parking lots or some sort of  park and your township will own it.
  Well that's alright you might say,that property can quickly become something that you can't live next to. But that isn't the point! That property along with all other buyout properties will not be taxed , meaning, you and your community will have to cover the taxes for local and county infrastructure, forever. And that vacant lot next door  isn't contributing a dime.
  FEMA  may pay your neighbor up to 75% of the value of their property, Your township and county is  broke  and cannot afford to match FEMA's offer, of course they can't! But also cannot afford to have these properties off the tax role. It's a Catch 22. Ultimately , you will find by next year just how much money was spent for cleanup, repair of infrastructure, overtime , blah blah blah, and the feds will contribute some disaster relief money to your local municipalities and county government, and everyone will be glad to get it......
  And then reality sets in, even though disaster relief has offset some of the bite that would make your local governments broke today. It will take them a little time to figure out that once that check was cashed, the taxbase is no longer large enough to cover the cost of day to day functions....and your properties will be reevaluated and at a higher price per thousand. You may find 'like  we are finding, you may have survived the water but you may not have survived the flood.
  If you plan on staying, the only way that we figured out  to save ourselves (only too late for us but not you) is to band your community, maybe a few neighbors whatever you can do, and make sure that those properties in jeopardy are purchased by you and not FEMA. You can resell those properties later and keep them on the tax roll now even if it is vacant and taxed as such, because where ever you live, people will want to live there , especially after things are back to normal, and you will be able to sell it ,or build on it and sell it, or just consider it an expensive expansion to your yard, whatever ,it'll give you options.
   These are the kind of things to think about as right now you and your neighbors are a tight group, bonded by this storm, and this discussion needs to happen before you all go back into your homes and never seem to find the time to talk about this, until the Town meetings ,when everyone is red in the face and unapproachable. TALK ABOUT THIS STUFF NOW!!!
  I say this to all of you, We survived Irene, we rebuilt after Irene, We were so busy with our own need to survive and get back to normal now, that we couldn't foresee what else could drive us from our homes. We never considered   unsellable land  and out of control property tax caused by FEMA buyouts. If you are reading this ,now you know ,now tell all your friends and local government, find the solution, survive this, and do it soon.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #65 on: November 08, 2012, 05:49:46 PM »
That is great advice and I will place it in places people can see it. This is not the case in Westchester County since very few homes if any were destroyed. It may not happen in most of the areas hit in NJ, or Long Island since it is very valuable property. The Real Estate speculators will get there way before FEMA if property is going to be available. I am sure they are all over the area looking for people up against it. 
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2012, 08:01:23 PM »
Geez, that FEMA thing sucks, what would happen if FEMA bought every house in your street apart from yours? Ouch! ;D
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #67 on: November 09, 2012, 02:28:41 PM »
That is what happened on a couple of streets where I am. And there is a street where every other house was a buyout. Village or town  must adopt the properties, insure those properties, and maintain those properties ( cut the grass after the house was removed) forever. Restricted from selling those parcels,thus eliminating those parcels as a source for taxation, forever. There have been folks that were under water  on their mortgages anyway and the buyout seemed like a good move to them.
Sucks for anyone who stays in the county as county taxes, village taxes, and town taxes are collected through  property tax, oh and I almost forgot , the school taxes work the same way ,on top of that.
  We are basically a community of lower middleclass, service oriented, mountain folk that has been able to scratch out a living and raise our families here for 300 years. Right now it's a wait and see, local officials  are trying to pass budgets that are well over our 2% cap, our  homes were reappraised higher and at a higher rate , at 100%. The tax man is telling us that even in this recession, in a down real estate market , that our homes are worth allot more than they ever were. Of course we can't sell any of this for what it is now appraised for, so it's a wait and see.  Needed to let coastal folks know what they could be in for.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #68 on: November 10, 2012, 08:50:50 PM »
Now , after 2 hurricane disasters on the northeast, there an agency HAARP that is receiving credit for redirecting both storms onto the Northeast shores , that would be the hard left turn that both storms made whereas they would have naturally gone east out into the Atlantic ocean.
  I hadn't heard of this until today for the first time ,there is allot of information on this stuff so it must have been going on for a while.
  It seems the west coast has a sea fairing machine that is gigantic ,self propelled,oil rig looking type of craft, with giant balls on the top deck. The Navy claims it's for weather monitoring in the ocean, there is a claim that this machine could have caused  the earthquake that caused Japan's tsunami.
  This high tech weather machine is thought to have been responsible for Brutus. Like I say, I just found out about this stuff today,does everyone else know about this?, More about this? where we can find out more about this? Found some stuff on youtube under military's mystery machine and still looking. There has got to be a better place to test weapons. Comments,info?
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #69 on: November 11, 2012, 05:28:54 AM »
We "wish" we could control the weather. Just more conspiracy theory.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #70 on: November 12, 2012, 01:37:39 AM »
I can control the weather at my place, I just turn the thermostat up or down, and BAM! I'm a weather God! (Sorry, I know this is a serious thread, so I'll be good) ;D
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Re: Hurricane Sandy
« Reply #71 on: November 14, 2012, 01:00:31 PM »
Despite the amount of brackish salt water and cockie-dookie my VFR was floating in 2 weeks ago, I am very optimistic that it will be running again soon.  A small part of me still wishes my CB350F got flooded instead, just for the sake of a simpler time tracking down electrical gremlins. Oy vey!
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