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Offline nitsua93

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My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« on: October 31, 2012, 11:14:30 AM »
I've been reading a few posts on wiring and tucking. I got the idea to put the battery,regulator,fuses, etc. Into a saddle bag. Obviously it would need air flow so I'd put 12v computer fans in the bag where I'd make vents. What's your idea on this? I don't see anything wrong with doing it this way, so please give me some input.

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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 11:40:21 AM »
the only bikes I see people moving the electronics on is cafe racers... I don't see many cafes with saddlebags

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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2012, 11:57:02 AM »
Yes, what is the point? If you're planning to tour it then you'll likely keep your side panels in tact? The cafe guys move the electronics because they want to make the bike look as bare as possible.

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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2012, 12:06:49 PM »
exactly what iron_worker said

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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2012, 12:13:57 PM »
Yes this is pretty confusing?

Plus say goodbye to ever riding in the rain!
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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2012, 12:20:49 PM »
I do like the bare look, whether or not it's a cafe. I'm not building a cafe, so a K7 with a saddle bag won't look bad.

As for riding in the rain, I'm pretty confident it wouldn't be an issue. It would get the same amount wet as under the seat.

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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2012, 12:22:43 PM »
Hey, I think it's interesting if you have a particular look you're going for.  I'm not aware of it being done - could be different and unique.
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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2012, 12:27:51 PM »
I've been reading a few posts on wiring and tucking. I got the idea to put the battery,regulator,fuses, etc. Into a saddle bag. Obviously it would need air flow so I'd put 12v computer fans in the bag where I'd make vents. What's your idea on this? I don't see anything wrong with doing it this way, so please give me some input.

using the PC fans is probably a bad idea.  the motors on those fans have hardly any torque -- so strong winds would really mess with them spinning.  i like your concept though!  i'm sure you can come up with a creative solution.  maybe just run a gel battery, so you don't need forced ventilation?  a few  filtered holes in the "bag" would probably keep things cooled off enough.

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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2012, 12:28:54 PM »
Is it a K7 750?  Whats the plan for the oil tank if your looking to opening the look in the frame.

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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2012, 01:03:02 PM »
Somewhere out there is a future owner of this bike who is going to want to beat you silly.

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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2012, 01:12:43 PM »
Somewhere out there is a future owner of this bike who is going to want to beat you silly.

Then... buy a different bike.
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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2012, 01:14:39 PM »
Yeah, I don't see the advantage here at all. I've seen a tool bag hung under the headlight bucket to hold the wiring and other stuff to be easier to access, but a saddlebag baffles me completely.
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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2012, 01:42:25 PM »
I say do it. I've seen wiring moved to an amo box hung like a saddle bag, and it looked bomber.
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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2012, 01:57:09 PM »
You can judge how it looks when I'm finished. Until then all I want is some help getting it done.

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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2012, 02:14:05 PM »
here ya go...remove the wiring harness and all electrical components from their stock location leaving all the wiring connected, stuff this huge mass of spaghetti and meatballs into the saddle bag of your choice, done.  You have now made this bike "yours"



(you may have to lengthen or shorten certain wiring leads ;D)
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2012, 02:15:33 PM »
Ha! Fair enough.

It would seem to me that you've got plenty of air movement to make some sort of forced-air convection, so I don't think you'll need computer fans. I'd say just create some sort of fabric-covered opening front and back, and the wind should blow right through without anything too much getting in.
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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2012, 02:16:57 PM »
I think I'd just slot the front and rear of the bag and call the airflow good.  If you want to get all fancy, you could hang a small electronic thermometer in there to see what the temp gets to be.  You could mount your equipment directly to the inside of the bag or make up a special pan to mount stuff like they do with the underseat stuff.

Don't take my word for it though - I'm low tech!
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2012, 02:27:04 PM »
I'll probably make a fabric covered hole on the front side and do the same on the back, but have an exhaust fan. I don't think wind will push through hard enough to mess with an exhaust fan. I could even put the exhaust fan on the bottom.

My design is to tuck everything nicely at the bottom and then put a wood shelf on top of it so I still have a few inches of storage for my wallet,phone, etc. I'm not anywhere near ready to start doing this but I'm definitely going to give it a try! I can get some ammo boxes for free too if that's what I want  8)

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« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2012, 02:31:58 PM »
I'd love to get my hands on some old ammo tins but those little buggers command a decent price on eBay.  And since I don't have a use in mind for them (I just think they're cool and it's appealing to have the option to use them at some point) it hasn't made much sense to shell out the cash just yet.
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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2012, 02:56:43 PM »
It seems to me that if you've got enough wind to muck up your fan operation... then you've got enough wind that you don't need the fan!
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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2012, 03:10:06 PM »
Except for at idle. Depending on where I'm at in my town I could be crawling with my bike in neutral for 15 minutes.

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« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2012, 03:22:29 PM »
Yeah, exactly- at low speed, the fan'll work fine, and at speeds where it'd be an issue, it's not going to be an issue :P
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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2012, 03:31:21 PM »
But the if the fan is trying to spin one way, or at 1 speed, then it could actually restrict airflow when you get up to speed.

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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2012, 05:45:17 PM »
I honestly wouldn't worry about it. Remember, the bike doesn't have a fan to begin with, and any air passing through there is passing over the hot engine first- pre-warmed.

If you're worried about it, it just set the fan to blow backwards, that way it won't interfere.
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Re: My Idea to Relocate Wiring Into a Saddle bag.
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2012, 05:48:42 PM »
I'm just going to put an exhaust fan at the bottom. That's the safest thing to do, alongside a fabric covered hole.

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