Topic: My Seeley 750 Rescue Mission on a shoestring

[scottly]

The side-stand bracket was nearly ripped off my frame; perhaps the PO had forgotten to fold the stand up and taken a left turn at some speed? In any case, it was not a very strong piece, made from rather thin material.
I made a bracket from 5/16" steel, using the lower rear engine mount.

[john campling]

Thanks will chase it up

[john campling]

Thanks Tim
I am offline for a few days so will get onto them when I get back.
That is one very hard to find piece of information 

[john campling]

Nice idea Scott
I remember going to Brighton on the Rockers run one year with a guy on a Norton with no stands at all. Every time we stopped he would find a tree or a hedge to lean it on .

[john campling]

OK, well the good news is I found a kit number, the bad news is I found two of them- it's either CP2232-12 (old Lockheed box) or CP2410-1RK (AP Racing pack). It is quite possible that the second one supercedes the first - I suggest giving AP's technical support desk a ring.

I have been in touch with CP and this is the reply

"Hi John,
 
As I said, CP2232-12 was the original version of the CP2232 motorcycle master cylinder assembly (5/8" bore) but CP2410-1RK is a 0.70" bore master cylinder repair kit.
 
I can't comment on the suitability of the seals in this kit for your cylinder, as it includes two 'lip' type seals (primary and secondary) but no 'O' rings? "


 

[Tim2005]

OK, I believe it's the CP2410-1RK  that you need- the other kit was a red herring, as the Pagehiln m/cyl is 0.7" (about 17.8mm) bore - well mine is anyway.  I don't know why yours has an O ring as both Pagehilns that I've seen have a pair of lip type seals, one cup-shaped and one ring-shaped. The cup shaped one goes between the spring and the piston, while the ring one goes in the piston groove.

[john campling]

OK, I believe it's the CP2410-1RK  that you need- the other kit was a red herring, as the Pagehiln m/cyl is 0.7" (about 17.8mm) bore - well mine is anyway.  I don't know why yours has an O ring as both Pagehilns that I've seen have a pair of lip type seals, one cup-shaped and one ring-shaped. The cup shaped one goes between the spring and the piston, while the ring one goes in the piston groove.

Hi Tim
Thanks for getting back to me
The O ring I am referring to goes in the groove of the piston and is not really an O ring was square in section. It was pretty knackered when I took it out so hard to know exactly what it looked like. I was going on the Airheart spec sheet where they refer to it as a Quadring.
The Bore is 0.7" so this CP2410-RK would seem to be the right thing
or at least worth a punt
cheers jc

[john campling]

UPDATE
Nick at Andover Norton can supply the 2 seals
The Part Numbers from AP Racing are CP 2623-324 and 107126
Bore 0.7" internal Diameter of ring seal 3/8" (10mm) thickness of ring approx 5mm
Just need to check these dimensions at the workshop then we could be sorted !!!!!
andover-norton@btconnect.com
They come in  repair kit APSSB1250 which fits disc brake Triumph, so give your Triumph mates the bits you don't need

[john campling]

It's official !!
The Triumph twin disc kit fits the 0.7" Pagehiln rear master cylinder on a Seeley Honda.

I have been advised against boring it out to a bigger size as there is a 0.5mm hole in there that will be lost and will knacker up your seals

Part No for the kit which includes bits you dont need but can give away or sell on
AS SSB 1250 from www.andover-norton.co.uk

[john campling]

Finally tracked down the rear light lens. It's from a Yamaha JT1 which I found on ebay USA. Nice Goodrich 3/8 UNF rear brake light pressure switch which needed cutting down.
The remains of my Dresda pipes not too bad really bit more cleaning and welding to do. They might end up being sprayed Black for now.

[john campling]

Ordered the last set of Air Filters from Tintop, they are on their way....progress !

[Syscrush]

Very worthy project.  Watching with interest!

[Gamma]

The oil pipe end fitting is alloy. I believe the steel female union is held on to the fitting by inserting a wire through that hole in your photo. Does anyone know how to get the union off for plating or replacement. Or can it be replated in situ.

[john campling]

The oil pipe end fitting is alloy. I believe the steel female union is held on to the fitting by inserting a wire through that hole in your photo. Does anyone know how to get the union off for plating or replacement. Or can it be replated in situ.

Ok thanks,  only one pipe has it though and it's a blind hole I wouldn't have thought it would be necessary if the female union was done up tight it would stop the pipe end moving anyway. I have never found a schematic of the oil pipes showing what goes on there.
I think originally they were Zinc or Cad plated maybe thin chrome. As they are crimped on I don't think it's possible to get them off without causing a lot of damage.
Plated in situ ? not sure maybe if they were well masked, would be interested to find out

[Gamma]

I've polished the aluminium part and painted the union for now with silver B B Q paint!

[john campling]

Good plan I had something similar in mind, prob paint after installing so's not to mess the paint up
Get em running and worry about the finer details later

[cavebear]

Just came across this thread. I have chassis #523. I was fortunate enough to buy it from the original owner a few years back. It came with the  manufacturers certificate of origin, the donor bike title and the Seeley title.

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This is the donor bike-1970 K1



At one time the Seeley was completely assembled, then the PO switched the parts back to the donor bike.

If anyone knows where I can find brackets for this fairing please let me know.

[Gamma]

Have you looked in that box. 

[Tim2005]

Great to see another Seeley appear, and a very early one at that too. What's the rebuild plan for it? 

That fairing is off a Seeley Classic CB750KZ, which was a stock framed DOHC 750 that Seeley fitted with their own tank/seat/fairing and exhaust in the early 1980s. It wasn't a great sales success either, indeed I think it was the last kit they made before they closed down.  I guess that if you did come across the original brackets for it they would be designed to fit a stock dohc frame.

[john campling]

Have you looked in that box. 

Ha the box marked fairing brackets  Brilliant !
@Cavebear Nice to see an early one, is the frame in good shape ?
what's going on with the front brake mounts ? They don't look like Honda CB forks
That seat looks long enough for 3 people
Interested to see it develop I think you will need to knock something up for the fairing brackets

[754]

 My guess on the fork is Betor or Ceriani, wonder about tube size. The seats actually looks shower than stock, not enough for 3 people.

[Tim2005]

Yeah, that's a standard Seeley dual seat and they are only about 1 3/4 people long... but also they are useful by being somewhere to bungee your waterproofs to.

As for the forks, they may be Seeley's own ones too, but I think they have been swapped around & we're actually looking at the inside of the right leg.

[john campling]

I bet I could get me and 2 skinny models on that seat
The steering stem is too long on that set of forks too

[scottly]

My bike has the same seat as C-bear's; the rear fender was the same before I hacked off the lower portion. 
Regarding protecting what is left of the original nickle plating, I have been using a polymer "wax". It is applied as a liquid, allowed to set for a while, then the excess wiped off. I've never tried to buff the finish to the original luster, for fear of buffing through the thin plating.

[john campling]

Ok thanks @Scottly will look into that wax
Just ordered Polyamide cam sprocket and roller from Poland. Interested in trying out some new stuff on this build whilst adding a  bit of durability and reliability