Author Topic: 350f, Bonneville bound. (Read 49664 times)

MRieck · « **Reply #125 on:** January 25, 2013, 02:02:05 PM »

Quote from: Sam Green Racing on January 24, 2013, 01:24:36 PM

Quote from: Jim F on January 24, 2013, 12:35:03 PM
Nice Looking welds
would do a leak check also but I am sure your gong to do that

jim

Hey Matty, if this guy says you have nice looking welds, then I guess you have nice looking welds.

http://www.jmfmicroweld.com/

Sam.

Exactly what I was thinking Sam.

As a matter of fact I've got to call him right now!

Sparked · « **Reply #126 on:** January 25, 2013, 02:32:18 PM »

Drill and tap a couple of bungs onto the airbox and counter bore matching thru holes in the fuel rail inbetween the injectors? Bolt together once the assembly is aligned.

MondayDad · « **Reply #127 on:** January 25, 2013, 07:07:02 PM »

The airbox is pretty thin stuff. I say zip ties! Vote on a color.

MondayDad

MondayLSR · « **Reply #128 on:** January 25, 2013, 07:24:11 PM »

It would be a crime to paint these welds

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We had planned to use these 1/4-20 threaded weld inserts to hold down the rail like you are getting at sparked. The rail ended up not sitting as in line with the plenum as we wanted. Might still be able to make it work. Would be the cleanest option.

Sparked · « **Reply #129 on:** January 25, 2013, 08:13:03 PM »

You could tap both ends of a peices of alum rod. Bolt it through the airbox from underneath, then figure out the angle needed to counterbore the runner and keep things inline. Hopes that makes sense.

trueblue · « **Reply #130 on:** January 25, 2013, 10:33:33 PM »

Looking good

. Just an idea to hold your fuel rail on. Weld a post onto the plenum with a thread in it, yellow in the picture. Another piece onto the fuel rail with a hole through it, green in the picture. Then bolt it together, red in picture. I would put a post in between 1 & 2 and another in between 3 & 4

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Syscrush · « **Reply #131 on:** January 26, 2013, 05:29:59 AM »

Quote from: trueblue on January 25, 2013, 10:33:33 PM

Looking good . Just an idea to hold your fuel rail on. Weld a post onto the plenum with a thread in it, yellow in the picture. Another piece onto the fuel rail with a hole through it, green in the picture. Then bolt it together, red in picture. I would put a post in between 1 & 2 and another in between 3 & 4 .

I think that you want the load running longitudinally along the fastener, not an axial load like this. That fuel rail could be subjected to a lot of force trying to pop it off.

MondayDad · « **Reply #132 on:** January 26, 2013, 01:09:57 PM »

Definitely force: turbo pressure, vibration, even fuel pressure. And it has to be removable pretty easily. Think about the direction the rail has to move to pull the fuel injectors out of the holes (or out of the fuel rail, which ever).

MondayDad

trueblue · « **Reply #133 on:** January 26, 2013, 06:15:00 PM »

It will be 2 bolts to remove it, if you are worried about the load on it add a couple of gussets back towards the injector tubes. Take a look at how they attach them on cars, even turbo engines with high boost pressures don't have a hell of a lot holding them in

. There just isn't much surface area for the boost pressure to act upon to push them out.

MondayLSR · « **Reply #134 on:** January 27, 2013, 07:27:55 AM »

I agree with try blue. With the small amount of area that actually sees boost/fuel psi, the 2 6mm bolts shouldn't have any problem holding it on. My main concern really is making it look cool

MondayLSR · « **Reply #135 on:** January 30, 2013, 08:53:03 PM »

A couple buddies dropped by to lend a hand and some encouraging words.

If you look closely you can see the wastegate is tucked under runner 1 nice and snug. Im pretty happy with this placement. leaves only a little open to the incoming air stream, most of which will be utilized to cram air into the turbo with the intake. Plus with the larger clutch, and the lack of a charging system, this should help balance the side to side weight distribution.

iron_worker · « **Reply #136 on:** January 31, 2013, 01:54:33 PM »

This build is awesome!

Turbo bike builds kick @ss.

IW

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #137 on:** January 31, 2013, 05:12:21 PM »

Looking very sanitary......

Just keep checking for knee clearance

MondayLSR · « **Reply #138 on:** January 31, 2013, 08:17:49 PM »

Thanks!

On second thought, I better double check that knee clearance...not sure I did

195suz · « **Reply #139 on:** February 04, 2013, 01:22:24 PM »

Hey Monday let me know if you need any help as my wife and I go to Bonneville every year and I run 350 M/AF.
I am pretty familiar with the rules and the best places to stay while there.

Syscrush · « **Reply #140 on:** February 05, 2013, 06:08:58 AM »

Quote from: 195suz on February 04, 2013, 01:22:24 PM

Hey Monday let me know if you need any help as my wife and I go to Bonneville every year and I run 350 M/AF.
I am pretty familiar with the rules and the best places to stay while there.

You really do meet the nicest people on a Honda.

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #141 on:** February 05, 2013, 08:21:07 AM »

or on here Sys.

MondayDad · « **Reply #142 on:** February 05, 2013, 06:17:45 PM »

Hey 195suz, do they have plenty of camping in the area? With water? (Something tells me we're going to do a lot of sweating!) I have an F350 with slide-in camper that is going to be the Mothership.

Do you run BUB or SCTA?

I'm sure that Matt will want to talk with you offline.

MondayDad

195suz · « **Reply #143 on:** February 05, 2013, 06:30:29 PM »

I don't know about water but you can camp at the end of the road that leads out to the salt flats. There is a gas station about a half a mile away I think you can get water there, I think there might be a camp ground in town but I don't know about the rates.

195suz · « **Reply #144 on:** February 05, 2013, 06:31:43 PM »

I run BUB.

MondayLSR · « **Reply #145 on:** February 05, 2013, 07:06:16 PM »

Awesome! Thanks for the help. I am definitely interested in giving you a call some time and discussing tech/rules if you don't mind.

I have an update coming soon....been busy moving the bike around to another buddies shop.

MondayLSR · « **Reply #146 on:** February 05, 2013, 08:49:41 PM »

Well it was time to move over to Ethan Stiles shop (Porter Built) to get the frame work fabbed up. It started out calm enough with us going over layout of parts/water tanks/intercooler..... took a few pictures...all was dandy.

Ethan

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Some times it feels like the project is flying, other times seem a bit too fast..... Stop by there today and it was go time!

I will never make a good fab guy, I am way too timid!

scottly · « **Reply #147 on:** February 05, 2013, 09:00:48 PM »

Have you figured out how to tie-down your injector fuel rail yet? I would try to mount off the ends of the rail, parallel to the injectors, tying into the outside edge of the outside intake runners. I did this on my home-brew EFI V-8 project, but my fuel rails were round. I don't have a good picture of the tie-downs, but if you're interested, I'll try to take one.
This is the best pic I have for now:

MondayLSR · « **Reply #148 on:** February 06, 2013, 04:21:56 AM »

No I haven't figured it out yet. We have so much else to do, I didn't want to stall on it anymore than needed.

I like your mounts! Good idea and nicely executed. My dad was mentioning tieing them down from the ends too. We'll keep that in mind, thanks.

Syscrush · « **Reply #149 on:** February 06, 2013, 06:46:43 AM »

That frame stuff is exciting, and I like the style of the photos, too.

I've gotta tell ya - I actually have daydreams about your intake manifold. It makes me want to do something similar, but for an NA application.

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