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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Moving on FORWARD
« Reply #200 on: January 01, 2014, 12:44:38 pm »
Ordered it, thx.  It ships from PS very close to my house...
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #201 on: January 01, 2014, 02:19:09 pm »
Spent half a day stripping down the bike, most of time really was cleaning up oil in the floor.  Must have spilled at least a qt. of oil while draining. 

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1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #202 on: January 01, 2014, 03:34:33 pm »
I swear first time doing it was much easier.  But engine is out finally.  Now what?

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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #203 on: January 01, 2014, 06:05:14 pm »
Got the cases split




Looking for the obvious, but where?
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #204 on: January 01, 2014, 07:11:06 pm »
Is this what causes my 2nd jerks a lot?

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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #205 on: January 01, 2014, 07:32:15 pm »
That certainly is an issue. Doesnt seemed to be spaced properly?
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #206 on: January 02, 2014, 06:32:16 am »
Is this what causes my 2nd jerks a lot?





That and the gears it slides into definitely.  Problem usually caused by rider abuse-as has been mentioned earlier the bottom end is practically bullet proof unless abused...Larry

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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #207 on: January 02, 2014, 06:45:49 am »
I would not expect to see any where there at all? Usually all the wear is on the end of the "forks". Makes me wonder if your shift forks were installed backwards or some such thing...

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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #208 on: January 02, 2014, 11:33:40 am »
Awesome build! What did you end up doing with those wheels and body kit?
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #209 on: January 02, 2014, 06:01:51 pm »
Found left shift fork in parts bin, wonderful condition, got it cleaned up and oiled.   Looked into the gear drum more closely, there is a good amount of wear on the slot where that damaged fork pin sits.  Will have to dig in my parts bin again. If not found, I might have to hit Stevo up for the drum
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #210 on: January 02, 2014, 06:02:39 pm »

Awesome build! What did you end up doing with those wheels and body kit?

They have been sitting on the shelves.  No idea what I'm gonna do with them. 
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #211 on: January 02, 2014, 06:04:08 pm »

That certainly is an issue. Doesnt seemed to be spaced properly?

Worn shift drum, caused the shift fork slipping??? At least that what I see in it at the moment
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #212 on: January 02, 2014, 06:05:44 pm »

That certainly is an issue. Doesnt seemed to be spaced properly?

Worn shift drum, caused the shift fork slipping??? At least that what I see in it at the moment

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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #213 on: January 03, 2014, 04:40:10 pm »
Not sure how we'll you could see from the pic, but there is a worn area with my screwdriver pointing at it



Now my question is, how do you remove the drum, before I damage the case
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #214 on: January 03, 2014, 05:16:27 pm »
Got the shift drum out, that was too easy, just had to remove the neutral switch at the bottom

And here's a better shot of the worn drum



Found a shift drum in my parts bin, just have to clean it up and oil it
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #215 on: January 03, 2014, 06:13:41 pm »
What is the condition of the gears that that shift fork actuates?  I can visualize the dogs being rounded off...Larry

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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #216 on: January 03, 2014, 08:10:55 pm »

What is the condition of the gears that that shift fork actuates?  I can visualize the dogs being rounded off...Larry

Here's the gear the bad L fork sits on



dogs on different gear



2 shiny wear marks on another gear?



Thoughts, recommendations,  suggestions, anything helps.
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #217 on: January 03, 2014, 09:03:19 pm »
Sorry, Gold, I just am having a hard time seeing the issue in the pics [and yes, my eyes are good!]
Can you put the trans back in with a good shift drum and fork and try to shift it and see how it looks?
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #218 on: January 03, 2014, 09:39:59 pm »
Gotta agree with Steve, though  the inner part of the lower dog in the first photo does appear to be a tad rounded but that could be either a refection or something close to normal wear and tear.  I am surprised there isn't damage...Larry

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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #219 on: January 04, 2014, 05:45:41 pm »
Case half is back on now, just needed few small hit with rubber mallet.  All is too easy, too good to be true? Used small amount of hondabond around the mating surface, then tight up the bolts. 

My concerns are two things as I couldn't see how the center fork went on to the gear slot, and chain roller. Any pointer?

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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #220 on: January 04, 2014, 05:53:46 pm »
You should be able to shift through the gears to ascertain it is together correctly, and it is hard to put the cases together wrong...larry

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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #221 on: January 08, 2014, 11:25:02 am »

You should be able to shift through the gears to ascertain it is together correctly, and it is hard to put the cases together wrong...larry

That's a relief. 

Got the engine all buttoned up, cleaned, and degreased, will need some touch up paint before going back in the frame

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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #222 on: January 08, 2014, 03:28:30 pm »

You should be able to shift through the gears to ascertain it is together correctly, and it is hard to put the cases together wrong...larry

That's a relief. 

Got the engine all buttoned up, cleaned, and degreased, will need some touch up paint before going back in the frame



Good news. And the test shifting seems fine?
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #223 on: January 08, 2014, 11:05:30 pm »
Test shifting by hand seems fine, shifts and locks into gears while turning the front sprocket.  May be few times felt like false neutral but that could be because using my weak  hand to turn sprocket???

Or may be I should have my mind set for a 3rd tear down...hmm....
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Re: 1975 CB750 K5 SPYDER - Splitting Cases
« Reply #224 on: January 09, 2014, 02:03:34 am »
Test shifting by hand seems fine, shifts and locks into gears while turning the front sprocket.  May be few times felt like false neutral but that could be because using my weak  hand to turn sprocket???

Or may be I should have my mind set for a 3rd tear down...hmm....





That does seem normal.   Good luck with it...Larry