Author Topic: Goldwing front end swap -- problems solved; now includes a how-to! (Read 19687 times)

Noel · « **on:** July 08, 2006, 05:01:48 PM »

So because several members here said that it was a direct swap, I've been collecting '75-'76 GL1000 parts for the past few months; refinishing, rebuilding, restoring; bringing everything up to first class. Several hundred dollars and dozens of hours of blood, sweat and tears later, I had everything I needed. Was a bit concerned that the fork legs were about three inches longer than the stock legs, but figured I had a way around it, so I started the project this morning.

Long story short, the steering stem isn't even close to fitting. It's at least an inch longer than the CB500 stem, which means the two threaded areas and the area where the top race press fits are in the wrong spot. It may be possible to find someone with a lathe to continue the threads and turn down the press fit area, but then again it may not. Certainly this has turned into a much more complicated project than I had believed, and I am pretty damn pissed at the moment.

Now, I'm hoping that I've just missed something, and I'm hoping that someone around here who claims that this swap works will arrive to explain to me what I need to do.

cbjunkie · « **Reply #1 on:** July 08, 2006, 05:07:48 PM »

hmmm...i was under the impression that it's a direct swap with a 750, not a 500...

so...what'cha want for all that useless stuff?

Bob Wessner · « **Reply #2 on:** July 08, 2006, 05:10:04 PM »

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so...what'cha want for all that useless stuff?

Ever the opportunist.

Einyodeler · « **Reply #3 on:** July 08, 2006, 05:21:43 PM »

If the stems are the same diameter you should be able to press out the GL one and press in the 500 stem.
I sold a 500 stem to a guy last year and he used it on his 550 to mount a CBR front end.

Noel · « **Reply #4 on:** July 08, 2006, 05:37:49 PM »

I've read about pressing out stems. Things is, they're welded. Am I supposed to grind off the weld, hammer out the stems, and reweld the 500 stem to the GL1000 clamp?

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2006, 05:41:15 PM »

They are welded Noel, so that front end is just junk to you, but don't give it to CBJ, he's been very argumentative with you of late, re: smacking would be Evel Kneivels, so I say send it to me mate, i'm yer fren.................... Ha ha, Cheers, Terry.

bill440cars · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2006, 05:48:17 PM »

Noel, from what I've heard from Greg (ohiocaferacers.com), you grind off the weld, press (not
hammer) out the stems, press in the one you need, weld it (or have it welded) and install it.

Later on, Bill

cbjunkie · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2006, 05:52:50 PM »

don't listen to that toolbag Aussie - you know perfectly well that a gentlemen's arguement is a bond thicker than blood!

parts for me!

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2006, 05:57:12 PM »

Quote from: cbjunkie on July 08, 2006, 05:52:50 PM

don't listen to that toolbag Aussie - you know perfectly well that a gentlemen's arguement is a bond thicker than blood!

parts for me!

After all those nasty things you've been saying behind Noels back about him being a flaming gay 500 rider who can't handle a real bike like yours and has to carry a gun cos he can't handle himself mate because he's a "shirt lifter"? I don't think so!

Noel · « **Reply #9 on:** July 08, 2006, 05:58:09 PM »

Which tool should I use to press out the stem?

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #10 on:** July 08, 2006, 05:59:10 PM »

Shouldn't that be worth at least 4 6 oil coolers considering Terry's cost?!

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #11 on:** July 08, 2006, 06:04:06 PM »

Quote from: RxmanGriff on July 08, 2006, 05:59:10 PM

Shouldn't that be worth at least 4 6 oil coolers considering Terry's cost?!

Hey ixnae on the oolerkae numbers Griffy, (who's side are you mate?) I was thinking more like one?

puppytrax · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2006, 06:04:33 PM »

Quote from: Noel on July 08, 2006, 05:58:09 PM

Would tool should I use to press out the stem?

A hydraulic press would be ideal. If your shop doesn't have one, look in the yellow pages for a Truck Service shop; they have all the big heavy stuff. Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to press out & press in.

I'd try it with an arbor press first, but then my shop has a hydraulic press too.

cbjunkie · « **Reply #13 on:** July 08, 2006, 06:09:02 PM »

noel - listen...don't let that bishop-flogging, sub-Hemispherical black wang toker talk you out of these parts.

you and me are buds. don't you forget it!

MRieck · « **Reply #14 on:** July 08, 2006, 06:17:22 PM »

Just as a tech note....it takes a talented(master) lathe operater to continue existing threads. It's a real #$%* and isn't for "hobbyist".

Noel · « **Reply #15 on:** July 08, 2006, 06:23:31 PM »

Arg. It's hard for me to see how the thing could be chucked into a lathe with the clamp still attached anyway. Guess I will see if I can find anywhere that can attempt to press the things out for me.

Thanks for everyone's help.

bill440cars · « **Reply #16 on:** July 08, 2006, 06:24:35 PM »

Noel, you be careful now. You've got a couple of Hungry Vultures hovering around over that
front end and, unless you shoo them off, they'll pick you clean!! Ha!;DHa!;DHa!;D

Sorry there Terry and cbj, gotta try to protect the unaware. You would use a cross with a
vampire, I don't know what you'd use for "HONDA" vultures.

Later on, Bill

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #17 on:** July 08, 2006, 06:29:30 PM »

Quote from: cbjunkie on July 08, 2006, 06:09:02 PM

noel - listen...don't let that bishop-flogging, sub-Hemispherical black wang toker talk you out of these parts.

you and me are buds. don't you forget it!

See, there he goes again with his rascist remarks! Surely Noel, you're not considering giving your beautiful (but useless to you) parts to some red neck nazi?

I see you're having problems with machining that steering stem mate, so I tell you what, send the ENTIRE front end to me, and I'll make sure it'll fit, and send it back to you! (eventually.................)

Noel · « **Reply #18 on:** July 08, 2006, 06:32:02 PM »

If I could get the lot of you together in a room with a hot exhaust pipe, I'd give an ElCheapo approved "lesson".

cbjunkie · « **Reply #19 on:** July 08, 2006, 06:33:31 PM »

BHA!

MRieck · « **Reply #20 on:** July 08, 2006, 06:51:40 PM »

Quote from: MRieck on July 08, 2006, 06:17:22 PM

Just as a tech note....it takes a talented(master) lathe operater to continue existing threads. It's a real #$%* and isn't for "hobbyist".

....and that's with the stem pressed out. I've done it ( not actually turned it.....I don't have those skills).

Orcinus · « **Reply #21 on:** July 08, 2006, 07:13:54 PM »

Quote from: bill440cars on July 08, 2006, 06:24:35 PM

You would use a cross with a vampire, I don't know what you'd use for "HONDA" vultures.

Later on, Bill

...Maybe crossed Yamahahahaha Monoshocks???

Honestly, I think it's a shame that there's more interest in picking over Noel's project than in helping him straighten out this disaster. Although I agree that picking up existing threads is a difficult process, it can be done. Good Luck.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #22 on:** July 08, 2006, 07:15:32 PM »

Yeah, well CBJ started it!

cbjunkie · « **Reply #23 on:** July 08, 2006, 07:43:40 PM »

ah, yes...Terry, you are so right -

"first come first serve"...

bill440cars · « **Reply #24 on:** July 08, 2006, 08:03:18 PM »

Boys...........Boys back into your prospective corners. In other words,
"Back away from the Wing Front End!"

You guys are something else, I'm not sure what though

Later on, Bill

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Author Topic: Goldwing front end swap -- problems solved; now includes a how-to! (Read 19687 times)