Hey Mark,bout a year ago a mate of mine who does lawns etc professionally and buys a new Honda mower every few years gave me 3 old ones he kept for spares,these are top range with three forward speeds and blade clutch,I said hey man sell em for spares on market place,he replied cant be #$%*ed with that,anyway I got one running and blades worked but dead transmission,another ran but no drive or blades incomplete and the third was too incomplete to run,I got 200 bucks the lot next day from one buyer,I told my mate and bought him lunch etc next ride,I felt guilty and offered him lunch the next ride we went on after that but he wouldnt take it,those mowers are heavy but good units.