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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #850 on: May 09, 2016, 06:23:05 AM »
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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #851 on: May 19, 2016, 10:35:41 PM »
Let's see if we can settle this (for my dim-wittedness).

The arrow points in the direction of the stamped designation, is that correct? So, with the arrow pointing upward toward the tank, that's FUEL ON, as follows:


Whereas with the arrow pointing down, this is RESERVE:


I only know that in OFF, the fuel is cut off.

I think the arrow is confusing because I'm interpreting it as the direction of flow...

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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #852 on: May 20, 2016, 03:12:12 AM »
It is tell you that the Fuel source is ON, OFF or RES
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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #853 on: May 27, 2016, 11:58:50 AM »
Inline four washed up on the shores of Fort Abercrombie, Kodiak, Alaska

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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #854 on: May 27, 2016, 12:37:39 PM »
Inline four washed up on the shores of Fort Abercrombie, Kodiak, Alaska


I wonder if it washed up or the vehicle disintegrated around it.
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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #855 on: May 27, 2016, 12:39:03 PM »
Inline four washed up on the shores of Fort Abercrombie, Kodiak, Alaska


I wonder if it washed up or the vehicle disintegrated around it.
True dat

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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #856 on: May 27, 2016, 01:27:38 PM »
I once found a whole volkswagen frame buried in the sand at a beach on lake michigan
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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #857 on: May 27, 2016, 01:59:35 PM »
I once found a whole volkswagen frame buried in the sand at a beach on lake michigan

Any bodies in it?
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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #858 on: May 28, 2016, 11:46:25 PM »
I once found a whole volkswagen frame buried in the sand at a beach on lake michigan

Any bodies in it?
just the ones I put in there
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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #859 on: May 30, 2016, 10:37:48 PM »

Inspiration for my next build

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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #860 on: May 31, 2016, 03:18:37 AM »
I will be subscribed to that one!
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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #861 on: June 15, 2016, 12:54:20 PM »
My Shorai LFX14A2 is having some issues. I can't seem to get it charged above 12.5V even while keeping the bike at a steady 5000 rpm - it used to climb up as high as 15.2V. While idle (around 1000 rpm), the battery reads a low 11.1V...
What could this mean? Possibly the Blk wire from the reg/rec is a poor connection at 12V ignition?
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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #862 on: June 15, 2016, 01:23:03 PM »
That's not good. Time to break out the multimeter!

We need a good baseline charge on yur battery. Charge it fully, let it sit, then take a meter reading.

With bike running, reading at idle, 3k, 4K, and 5k please.

You running a Ricks, I don't recall? And remind how it's wired please.
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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #863 on: June 15, 2016, 01:27:16 PM »
think it normal for a stock system.---(but think not you have that)
.it have not a real volt regulator as stock bike..
..so it vill  load sensing..and  thange by shut some  restistens ohm  inn and aut in the regulator..and shut on and off the elektromagenet. its not total akurat..turn the pos light on can get the volts to fall..so you gets abaut the 12 volt..turn it off..and it reise to over 14(mine does it so)..but it vorks fine on a 12 ah battery..

..the elektronic ones do the vhole presise so you never gets over 13,5-14,5volt..if the elektronic give problems ..it often the load sentive vire vho goes the the regulator..and tells it the aktuly voltage on the battery.(.and it tells somthing vrong) bad konnektion
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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #864 on: June 15, 2016, 01:31:47 PM »
It's an ElectroSport and if you recall, the company sent me a replacement to fix the crossed wires. But since then, it seemed my system was operating fine up until the other day I started noticing the power drops. I rarely ever saw, if ever, the voltage drop below 12V so I was thinking perhaps vibration shook the Blk wire I pigtailed to one of the blacks at the 12V ignition... I will inspect.
But meanwhile, tonight I'll plug the battery up to the power base station and see about getting it up to a good baseline read.

Thanks, calj!

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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #865 on: June 16, 2016, 07:48:14 AM »
Thanks, strynboen. Let's see what happens after I hook the battery up to the charger. Maybe a proper recharge will reset the battery somehow? Will keep you all posted. Thanks!

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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #866 on: June 16, 2016, 09:26:06 AM »
Shorai is telling me that the windings on stator could be going bad?...

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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #867 on: June 16, 2016, 09:32:43 AM »
they can go bad....but i have never seen it.
.ve got a lot of startors to aur shop..and 99% are fine..and are returned vitaut doing anything.(ve are heating them to 85 deg..and test vith a megger..for shorts to metal frame and ekstreme heigh ohm)
..its alvays elektric/viring reg problems...most bad konnektions and vrong mounted parts vho goes bad...those stators are solid..specily the dry types ve have ..the oil cooled are a bit more" cooked"and can  have failed isolasion...hot oil burns up the lauqer so they shorts aut
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« Reply #868 on: June 16, 2016, 09:53:15 AM »
I don't think it'd be the stator either. The Shorai rep was mainly referencing their personal experience with a much later (more current year) bike.

The battery is now charging.
I must remind myself to disconnect the terminals and then check all the connections, especially the Blk wire to the 12V ignition.

Thanks, strynboen!
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« Reply #869 on: June 16, 2016, 12:49:15 PM »
 I am not saying this is the case but, you are the third member in two weeks that I have encountered with a recently new electro sport reg/rec and charging problems. So we need to also consider whether or not that device is functioning properly
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« Reply #870 on: June 16, 2016, 01:49:11 PM »
I am not saying this is the case but, you are the third member in two weeks that I have encountered with a recently new electro sport reg/rec and charging problems. So we need to also consider whether or not that device is functioning properly
Oh wow. That's not good.
Calj, would this test provided by ElectroSport be good to trouble shoot that device?
http://www.electrosport.com/technical-resources/library/diagnosis/pdf/diode-testing-guide.pdf
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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #871 on: June 16, 2016, 02:17:14 PM »
ElectroSport reg/rects not compatible with lithium batteries? What?
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=155502

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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #872 on: June 16, 2016, 06:03:15 PM »
ElectroSport reg/rects not compatible with lithium batteries? What?
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=155502

Let's hope that's not true as I just bought the same setup for my build!

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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #873 on: June 16, 2016, 07:00:24 PM »
ElectroSport reg/rects not compatible with lithium batteries? What?
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=155502

Let's hope that's not true as I just bought the same setup for my build!
Turns out that it may refer to Lithium Ion as opposed to Lithium Iron (LiFe) batteries, per the maestro, calj:)

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Re: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)
« Reply #874 on: June 16, 2016, 07:48:33 PM »
ElectroSport reg/rects not compatible with lithium batteries? What?
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=155502

Let's hope that's not true as I just bought the same setup for my build!
Turns out that it may refer to Lithium Ion as opposed to Lithium Iron (LiFe) batteries, per the maestro, calj:)

Maestro, that's a good word for him ;)  just caught up reading your thread.  Tremendous job and a fun read, thanks for taking us along...