Topic: 1977 CB550F IDK (first build)

[minimo]

The o-rings here are OEM and I have isolated the remaining slight leaks to come out from both sides of these cylinder head side covers
It's like I need thicker and more robust versions of these o-rings.

I cleaned out the recesses where these o-rings plug and there was some carbon-like debris and schmutz that was easy to scoop out.

Time to reorder 4x O-RING, 6x3 HONDA part # 91319-323-000

[strynboen]

i hate scmuszch in my engines..

[minimo]

Let's see if we can settle this (for my dim-wittedness).

The arrow points in the direction of the stamped designation, is that correct? So, with the arrow pointing upward toward the tank, that's FUEL ON, as follows:


Whereas with the arrow pointing down, this is RESERVE:


I only know that in OFF, the fuel is cut off.

I think the arrow is confusing because I'm interpreting it as the direction of flow...

[minimo]

Inline four washed up on the shores of Fort Abercrombie, Kodiak, Alaska

[SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan]

Inline four washed up on the shores of Fort Abercrombie, Kodiak, Alaska

I wonder if it washed up or the vehicle disintegrated around it.

[minimo]

Inline four washed up on the shores of Fort Abercrombie, Kodiak, Alaska

I wonder if it washed up or the vehicle disintegrated around it.

True dat

[seanbarney41]

I once found a whole volkswagen frame buried in the sand at a beach on lake michigan

[SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan]

I once found a whole volkswagen frame buried in the sand at a beach on lake michigan

Any bodies in it?

[seanbarney41]

I once found a whole volkswagen frame buried in the sand at a beach on lake michigan

Any bodies in it?

just the ones I put in there

[minimo]

Inspiration for my next build

[minimo]

My Shorai LFX14A2 is having some issues. I can't seem to get it charged above 12.5V even while keeping the bike at a steady 5000 rpm - it used to climb up as high as 15.2V. While idle (around 1000 rpm), the battery reads a low 11.1V...
What could this mean? Possibly the Blk wire from the reg/rec is a poor connection at 12V ignition?
Calj?

[strynboen]

think it normal for a stock system.---(but think not you have that)
.it have not a real volt regulator as stock bike..
..so it vill  load sensing..and  thange by shut some  restistens ohm  inn and aut in the regulator..and shut on and off the elektromagenet. its not total akurat..turn the pos light on can get the volts to fall..so you gets abaut the 12 volt..turn it off..and it reise to over 14(mine does it so)..but it vorks fine on a 12 ah battery..

..the elektronic ones do the vhole presise so you never gets over 13,5-14,5volt..if the elektronic give problems ..it often the load sentive vire vho goes the the regulator..and tells it the aktuly voltage on the battery.(.and it tells somthing vrong) bad konnektion

[minimo]

It's an ElectroSport and if you recall, the company sent me a replacement to fix the crossed wires. But since then, it seemed my system was operating fine up until the other day I started noticing the power drops. I rarely ever saw, if ever, the voltage drop below 12V so I was thinking perhaps vibration shook the Blk wire I pigtailed to one of the blacks at the 12V ignition... I will inspect.
But meanwhile, tonight I'll plug the battery up to the power base station and see about getting it up to a good baseline read.

Thanks, calj!

[minimo]

Thanks, strynboen. Let's see what happens after I hook the battery up to the charger. Maybe a proper recharge will reset the battery somehow? Will keep you all posted. Thanks!

[minimo]

Shorai is telling me that the windings on stator could be going bad?...

[strynboen]

they can go bad....but i have never seen it.
.ve got a lot of startors to aur shop..and 99% are fine..and are returned vitaut doing anything.(ve are heating them to 85 deg..and test vith a megger..for shorts to metal frame and ekstreme heigh ohm)
..its alvays elektric/viring reg problems...most bad konnektions and vrong mounted parts vho goes bad...those stators are solid..specily the dry types ve have ..the oil cooled are a bit more" cooked"and can  have failed isolasion...hot oil burns up the lauqer so they shorts aut

[minimo]

I don't think it'd be the stator either. The Shorai rep was mainly referencing their personal experience with a much later (more current year) bike.

The battery is now charging.
I must remind myself to disconnect the terminals and then check all the connections, especially the Blk wire to the 12V ignition.

Thanks, strynboen!

[minimo]

I am not saying this is the case but, you are the third member in two weeks that I have encountered with a recently new electro sport reg/rec and charging problems. So we need to also consider whether or not that device is functioning properly

Oh wow. That's not good.
Calj, would this test provided by ElectroSport be good to trouble shoot that device?
http://www.electrosport.com/technical-resources/library/diagnosis/pdf/diode-testing-guide.pdf

[minimo]

ElectroSport reg/rects not compatible with lithium batteries? What?
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=155502

[iiAtlas]

ElectroSport reg/rects not compatible with lithium batteries? What?
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=155502

Let's hope that's not true as I just bought the same setup for my build!

[minimo]

ElectroSport reg/rects not compatible with lithium batteries? What?
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=155502

Let's hope that's not true as I just bought the same setup for my build!

Turns out that it may refer to Lithium Ion as opposed to Lithium Iron (LiFe) batteries, per the maestro, calj:)

[iiAtlas]

ElectroSport reg/rects not compatible with lithium batteries? What?
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=155502

Let's hope that's not true as I just bought the same setup for my build!

Turns out that it may refer to Lithium Ion as opposed to Lithium Iron (LiFe) batteries, per the maestro, calj:)

Maestro, that's a good word for him   just caught up reading your thread.  Tremendous job and a fun read, thanks for taking us along...

[minimo]

So I charged the battery. It reads 13.33V at full charge. Seems normal.

I also check out the BLK wire to 12V ignition, pulled it off the connector, checked good for continuity, and plugged it back in.

Started the bike up on the first kick and have the following readings:

Idle 1000rpm = seemed to drop to 11.4V then blipped the throttle to see quickly rise to 12.5V then back down to 11.4V...

Rev'd up to 2-3000rpm = reached a steady 12.3V

Dropped it back down to idle (accidentally lost grip) and the voltage seemed to also drop quite dramatically to about 11.4V (bike was also still cold)

4-5000rpm brought it gradually back up to 14.4V~ and then I decided to get the bike out for a steady ride on the freeway, keeping a steady 5000rpm for several minutes and it maintained a steady 15.3V

All charging systems seem normal as once before. Maybe the recharge did something to reset the battery, or perhaps the BLK line wasn't connected properly. Before the test I did also jiggle around the r/r harness and respective BLK and W connectors so maybe that did it?

But now, after the ride and all that charging, with a short rest and the bike OFF, I turn the ignition on and meter the batt = 16.4V

Too high? Dangerous?

[strynboen]

yes to heigh..elektronic kontroll is if it vorks.
.max 14,5.-14,8.it never goes heigher.
.still think you have a viring problem..you must fine one vho can do a korrekt thek of all the stuff you have mixed together.
..i think you have a reg from a permanent magenet setup..or have mounted it vrong.

.data says that you not have any regulating at all.. mine teori is that the elektro magenet is powered up all time..and make power after the rpm..not regulated at all

[minimo]

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