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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #125 on: December 10, 2013, 06:46:44 AM »
Just saw this thread Prokop, very interesting-like your Yankee/Czech ingenuity. 

On the bushings,  there were two styles-one with a collar and the other recessed, not sure which style mated to which model.  My 75 Red Rider called for the collar type but I installed the other style, worked well.


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« Reply #126 on: December 10, 2013, 06:53:34 AM »
Thank you, Larry  :)

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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #127 on: December 11, 2013, 04:37:54 PM »
I don't recall ever seeing anyone doing a meld of F and K bikes here before; should be interesting. :)
Been done several times, it's called an F'nK
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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #128 on: December 12, 2013, 03:08:05 AM »
I don't recall ever seeing anyone doing a meld of F and K bikes here before; should be interesting. :)
Been done several times, it's called an F'nK

I prefer K3Fka - kefka means toothbrush in Slovak :)

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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #129 on: January 14, 2014, 02:12:11 AM »
I am halfway through cutting and laping valve seats - 3 and 4 are finished and mechanic's blue shows nice imprint.

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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #130 on: January 14, 2014, 02:52:28 AM »
I don't recall ever seeing anyone doing a meld of F and K bikes here before; should be interesting. :)
Been done several times, it's called an F'nK

I prefer K3Fka - kefka means toothbrush in Slovak :)





Why not A Kafka?  ::) ...Larry

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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #131 on: January 14, 2014, 03:26:43 AM »
I don't recall ever seeing anyone doing a meld of F and K bikes here before; should be interesting. :)
Been done several times, it's called an F'nK

I prefer K3Fka - kefka means toothbrush in Slovak :)


Why not A Kafka?  ::) ...Larry

Oh, that's a good one, Larry.   ;D 

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« Reply #132 on: January 14, 2014, 03:28:05 AM »
And Kafka or kavka means Western Jackdaw - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Jackdaw, LOL.

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« Reply #133 on: January 14, 2014, 05:02:22 AM »
And Kafka or kavka means Western Jackdaw - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Jackdaw, LOL.


Actually, I was referring to Franz Kafka Prokop.   Larry

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« Reply #134 on: January 14, 2014, 05:14:53 AM »
And Kafka or kavka means Western Jackdaw - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Jackdaw, LOL.


Actually, I was referring to Franz Kafka Prokop.   Larry

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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #135 on: January 14, 2014, 06:05:20 PM »
Cutting seats.


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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #136 on: January 14, 2014, 08:20:10 PM »
The 60s? Or all three? Looks cleeeeen :)

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« Reply #137 on: January 15, 2014, 03:25:01 AM »
I did all three.

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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #138 on: January 15, 2014, 08:44:48 AM »
Very nice! I'm sure you're happy with the oil stay tests now. Are you going to be doing any porting? Would love to see someone experienced do it first before I attempt it ;) After cleaning out some of that carbon gunk, my ports look horrid, palgued with casting pimples and irregularities. I've been keeping an eye on the porting tests thread in the performance forum, but I only wish to clean mine to keep the carbon from gunking it up again. Any gains will be just a nice bonus :)

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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #139 on: January 15, 2014, 08:55:03 AM »
I found out that the 45 deg sealing surface has to be limited from the top and the bottom.  Had to spent hundred more on tools, but it is worth it IMO.

Porting - good question, I am still thinking about that one.  Most likely I will compare the head with Hondaman book pictures and decide what can be done.

I did some head smoothing and cleaning on 4.2 jeep engine back in the day, but I don't think it made much of a difference.

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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #140 on: January 15, 2014, 10:12:18 AM »
I found out that the 45 deg sealing surface has to be limited from the top and the bottom.  Had to spent hundred more on tools, but it is worth it IMO.

Porting - good question, I am still thinking about that one.  Most likely I will compare the head with Hondaman book pictures and decide what can be done.

I did some head smoothing and cleaning on 4.2 jeep engine back in the day, but I don't think it made much of a difference.

Hondaman is a big fan of porting the 750 head, to remove many of the obstructions resulting from sloppy casting.
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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #141 on: January 16, 2014, 02:08:43 PM »
Machinist's blue imprint after lapping.

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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #142 on: January 16, 2014, 07:12:22 PM »
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You don't have to go wild with the porting, just clean up the real rough bumps and lumps. There are threads out there on it, homebrew porting, DIY, they have some really good pics

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The flange style should replace everything but the plastic end cap if the bike has the end cap. If it has it I believe it is utilized. It is hard to nail specifics, kinda like how everybody has done a different steering head bearing stack
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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #143 on: January 17, 2014, 03:51:28 AM »
I am afraid I don't follow, what flange and cap?

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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #144 on: January 27, 2014, 06:34:02 PM »
Installed one inner spring to measure spring installed height. I need a compass, none of my methods is reliable enough.


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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #145 on: January 27, 2014, 08:02:10 PM »
New fuse box rewired to the old plug.

That's a good idea, my fuse box is corroded, I was going to clean it up but this is a better fix.
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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #146 on: January 28, 2014, 02:56:28 AM »
New fuse box rewired to the old plug.

That's a good idea, my fuse box is corroded, I was going to clean it up but this is a better fix.

Offered also by Hondaman:

http://sohc4shop.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=12&products_id=48&osCsid=5510e6252a4b462022769ece21b177ee

The fuse box itself I had to buy on e_bay, impossible to buy locally.

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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #147 on: January 28, 2014, 07:23:02 PM »
New fuse box rewired to the old plug.

That's a good idea, my fuse box is corroded, I was going to clean it up but this is a better fix.

Offered also by Hondaman:



http://sohc4shop.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=12&products_id=48&osCsid=5510e6252a4b462022769ece21b177ee

The fuse box itself I had to buy on e_bay, impossible to buy locally.

thanks for the info!
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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #148 on: February 04, 2014, 03:23:19 PM »
Installed all inner springs to check installed height.


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Re: CB750 K3F
« Reply #149 on: February 05, 2014, 02:21:49 PM »
Installed all inner springs to check installed height.



70CB750, Whats the outcome of the spring height after cutting the seats, is it close to stock or do you need to add shims?
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