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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2012, 11:31:47 PM »
Yoshi did 823 but that's basically a 810 anyway but with 2 rings not 3.
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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2012, 02:46:44 AM »
You're right, just modified it. thanks.
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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2012, 05:51:22 AM »
Both Rob & Mike are right about Yoshimura. Especially in roadracing circles their parts were the go-to fast goodies. With this engine Pops seemed to like to do more with less in terms of displacement. Once guys strayed to bigger bores things went boom. Yoshimura was about lightweight components for high reving engines.

In the shop where I worked my boss roadraced and had these same rod issues when the bore went to 900cc. No-one liked blowing engines and he went back to smaller bores (preferred 810) and was very succesful. He was eventually thankful for RC rods that seemed to hold together. Let's be honest though in those days privateer mechanics were on their own and didn't have internet forums to access good information. So some ideas worked, some did not.

Cut to nearly forty years later....we have among other things, rods and pistons & rings available that are light years better than what was at our disposal then. Not to ruffle feathers, but I too am surprised at the renewed interest in old tech parts. Myself included, to still be playing with these old tech bikes descibes what we're about as individuals I suppose, nostalgia be damned!

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2012, 06:54:49 AM »
Lighter is better. I wonder if Paul Gast and Ashley Owens could have run 3.90's on nitrous in the 1/8th mile with heavy pistons.

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2012, 07:14:04 AM »
It seems strange that this thread has turned into a conversation about old components but the thread starter don't seem interested in what's being said. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2012, 07:39:38 AM »
We jacked the thread Sam. Lol.

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2012, 02:43:35 PM »
Yea sorry ukshane, I'll keep my dribble to myself.

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« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2012, 03:18:52 PM »
It seems strange that this thread has turned into a conversation about old components but the thread starter don't seem interested in what's being said. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2012, 03:48:33 PM »
No worries. I've enjoyed following the debate.  I posted some more pics on the other thread including an Andrews 4 cam that came with the engine.  Think that will add some pep to my stock SOHC 4  :)

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2012, 06:16:38 PM »
Those blocks are going back into production!?!

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2012, 06:17:13 PM »
When it comes to nitro, weight is not a concern. Not lubing the dragstrip takes center stage.  I make the pins for virtually all of the nitro bikes including the HDs.

What we don't want is pin flex tearing up the small end bore in the rods, etc,   Spiderman can make a 5.80 240 mph run and then push my pins out with their fingers.

I would not hesitate to run one of our 15 mm TF pins in any sohc Honda.   

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2012, 08:22:59 PM »
 Mike FWIW my Old Venolia 71 mm pistons are 180 grams bare..so I don't know what you have there.. If I remember correctly there was a Venolia decal on at least one RC bike.

Btw Did you see my pic of the Yoshimura rod, don't matter how "better" it is if it turnsinto a grenade..
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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2012, 08:26:33 PM »
The pistons in my RC engine are Venolia as well.... ;)
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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2012, 08:47:46 PM »
I think early were Venolia,later Arias? Other way around? Just weighed my bare 836 Venolia RC piston..191.3 g.
The 970 Arias is 219.25. Stock 161g. Jay's APE 1000 Alcoa/MTC 204.45 g..........Ken's CycleX 915 Wiseco made to his specs,155(154.2)!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not running nitro here....OK not yet,so for a person running gas,I like the 915 esp,since you can do it w/out having to bore cases! 8) My .02,Bill
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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2012, 05:12:05 AM »
Mike FWIW my Old Venolia 71 mm pistons are 180 grams bare..so I don't know what you have there.. If I remember correctly there was a Venolia decal on at least one RC bike.

Btw Did you see my pic of the Yoshimura rod, don't matter how "better" it is if it turnsinto a grenade..
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« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2012, 05:25:01 AM »
It seems strange that this thread has turned into a conversation about old components but the thread starter don't seem interested in what's being said. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2012, 06:18:02 AM »
good job I've got thick skin. ::)

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2012, 06:29:36 AM »
Kaw piston in the pic.

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2012, 08:00:55 AM »
Mike FWIW my Old Venolia 71 mm pistons are 180 grams bare..so I don't know what you have there.. If I remember correctly there was a Venolia decal on at least one RC bike.

Btw Did you see my pic of the Yoshimura rod, don't matter how "better" it is if it turnsinto a grenade..
I don't like aluminum rods and never have. I don't care who made them. Carrillo have always been my benchmark though modern stock rods are very good. My friend used stock GS rods in multi time world champ Gary Clark's turbo funnybike....those could handle 60 to 70 lbs. Better match your components carefully.
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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2012, 08:47:37 AM »
Kaw piston in the pic.

Yes,but says available in 970,1000 and 1080!
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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2012, 09:18:08 AM »
Kaw piston in the pic.

Yes,but says available in 970,1000 and 1080!

Try again little Willie,  says 1013, 1075, 1103 and 1200. ::)

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« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2012, 11:51:57 AM »
Yes sir/No sir,had 'em both Hondas and Kaw!!!! ;) ;D Bill
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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2012, 12:21:05 PM »
To much apple pie mate and in the daytime at that. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2012, 12:49:11 PM »
Kaw piston in the pic.

Yes,but says available in 970,1000 and 1080!

Try again little Willie,  says 1013, 1075, 1103 and 1200. ::)

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Re: RC Engineering
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2012, 12:51:31 PM »
And now back to UK (Big Blue) Shane  ;D  We're a bunch of hijacking hi-perfromance dudes.
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