Topic: David Silver Spares Electric Ignition

[txterror]

Im in the market for an electric ignition and was wondering if anyone has tried the circuit board looking electric ignition from David Silver Spares. Ive read about the Dyna S DS1-1 units but cant afford the upgraded coils. The one from DSS says it can be used with stock coils. Bike is a CB400F.

[trueblue]

I know Frostyboy was looking into one a while back, not sure if he ended up getting it.  Another option is Hondamans setup, it is better in that if it fails you can revert to points on the side of the road.

[CycleRanger]

Im in the market for an electric ignition and was wondering if anyone has tried the circuit board looking electric ignition from David Silver Spares. I've read about the Dyna S DS1-1 units but can't afford the upgraded coils. The one from DSS says it can be used with stock coils. Bike is a CB400F.

The Dyna S works fine with stock coils. That's how I run mine.

[MCRider]

I know Frostyboy was looking into one a while back, not sure if he ended up getting it.  Another option is Hondamans setup, it is better in that if it fails you can revert to points on the side of the road.

I've run an electronic for many miles and decades, and have no problem with the idea.  however, once presented with the HondaMan transistor pack, its hard to justify the chance of electronic failure (Dynas have been known to screw the pooch).

AS mentioned if the trans fails, just unplug it, plug the points back in and go.

I have the trans pack for my current project. Plus it will make those points look cool behind a clear points cover, while out performing points only. Electronic just sits there.   

[Prospect]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the difference between the hondaman transistorized ignition is that you still need to set up the timing periodically where as with the dyna you set it once and leave it.  I have both of them and like them both. 

[trueblue]

With any electronic ignition you should at the very least check it from time to time.

[MCRider]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the difference between the hondaman transistorized ignition is that you still need to set up the timing periodically where as with the dyna you set it once and leave it.  I have both of them and like them both.

true the poiints are still there. But the maintenance cycle goes from 1500mi to unknown. HM claims he hasn't reset his points in ... a long time. He has stated his experience and I think it rivals the electronic.

[MCRider]

Here's a thread with HM testimonial:
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=67543.0

easy search on "hondaman ignition"

[txterror]

Thanks guys! how do i go abouts getting one of HondaMans device?  One other question, will i be able to use this device if my battery is under my seat

[Prospect]

http://sohc4shop.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=23

you will be able to use it if the battery is under the seat.

[Prospect]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the difference between the hondaman transistorized ignition is that you still need to set up the timing periodically where as with the dyna you set it once and leave it.  I have both of them and like them both.

true the poiints are still there. But the maintenance cycle goes from 1500mi to unknown. HM claims he hasn't reset his points in ... a long time. He has stated his experience and I think it rivals the electronic.

Yes, I read that as well but I was under the impression that you don't need to change the points gap but still have to adjust the timing due to advance mechanism spring tension weakening over time. 

[MCRider]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the difference between the hondaman transistorized ignition is that you still need to set up the timing periodically where as with the dyna you set it once and leave it.  I have both of them and like them both.

true the poiints are still there. But the maintenance cycle goes from 1500mi to unknown. HM claims he hasn't reset his points in ... a long time. He has stated his experience and I think it rivals the electronic.

Yes, I read that as well but I was under the impression that you don't need to change the points gap but still have to adjust the timing due to advance mechanism spring tension weakening over time.

The electronics I know of use the OEM spark advancer. Different cam but same spring platform. No difference there. Does your Dyna not use the OEM advancer?

[txterror]

I would need the device for dual points correct, for my 1974 cb400f? Do you guys suggest anything else i should get from hondaman, to help improve my cb400f.

[MCRider]

I would need the device for dual points correct, for my 1974 cb400f? Do you guys suggest anything else i should get from hondaman, to help improve my cb400f.

Yes.  Or PM/Email him for anything special he may need to supply for your app.

IMO just give him a blank check and tell him to send you everything.   

[Prospect]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the difference between the hondaman transistorized ignition is that you still need to set up the timing periodically where as with the dyna you set it once and leave it.  I have both of them and like them both.

true the poiints are still there. But the maintenance cycle goes from 1500mi to unknown. HM claims he hasn't reset his points in ... a long time. He has stated his experience and I think it rivals the electronic.

Yes, I read that as well but I was under the impression that you don't need to change the points gap but still have to adjust the timing due to advance mechanism spring tension weakening over time.

The electronics I know of use the OEM spark advancer. Different cam but same spring platform. No difference there. Does your Dyna not use the OEM advancer?

It's been a while so I don't remember.  If the dyna uses stock springs as the HM ignition does then they're both very similar.  HM ignition having the large advantage of switching to points if the unit fails.  If that happens with dyna then you're calling a tow truck. 

[MCRider]

Prospect: I just looked at a YouTube for a Dyna CB750A: uses the stock advancer. Swap out the ignition cam is all.
Installing A Dyna S Ignition on a CB750A

I really got nothing against electronic, and the fail rate is VERY low, but it has happened, threads here say so.

I do like the idea of watching the points work thru the clear cover. And it's a little more elegant and authentic to use the HM Trans Ig as its hidden and keeps the nostalgic points and condensors.

[Retro Rocket]

There are at least 5 different electronic ignitions for our Bikes, Boyer, Dyna, Rob {forum member Voxonda} has one,  Pamcoe and the DSS one, actually there are more but i can't think of them ATM.....  I think Cycle X has one as well...

[MRieck]

There are at least 5 different electronic ignitions for our Bikes, Boyer, Dyna, Rob {forum member Voxonda} has one,  Pamcoe and the DSS one, actually there are more but i can't think of them ATM.....  I think Cycle X has one as well...

Yes. It is different from all the others as it does not use magnetic sensors....it is optical