Topic: Biker Build Off thoughts...

[MOTOJESUS]

Fast and Loud..beautiful bike, super clean handlebars, beautiful motor.. and a ballsy choice on color... i like it..

Jesse James.. a streetfighter? biggest surprise of the show.. some incredible design and craftsmanship built by a real jerk lol

Paul Sr.  innovative and butt ugly...

Paul Jr. individual parts of this bike i love, as a whole, just another whacked out future chopper mess....

Your thoughts? i voted for fast and loud...

[bjatwood]

I voted for Juniors bike. Love the throwback old school style of it and the attention to detail is second to no one!
But the gas monkey boyz did make a nice statement with their creative take on Milwaukee iron...especially the color choice... 
As for the other two builds, not feeling it at ALL!

[Tews19]

This build off is better then last years. I think Gas Monkey has the best bike. Shocked I would say that after seeing the mock up of SR's and the Print of Jesse's in the beginning of the show.

Jesse didn't even make his rendering he had printed prior. His bike was a far cry from what was expected. Really dissappointed with the final look.

Sr's bike looked really nice but when I saw the final product, the front end blows. Everything else looked neat.

Jr's bike blows. Nothing cool about it... Nothing original.... All done before......

Gas Monkey bike just looks fun to ride. By far the most realistic and everyday rider. Aaron has some skills.

GAS MONKEY GETS MY VOTE

[racinchase]

My first impression of watching Gas Monkey a few months back was they were a hack shop but the guys are a trip to watch ha. No way I’d buy a car from those guys lol!! As far as their bike I think it’s a great looking shovel. Classic bike that is popular, add to that the fact they road it to the show and that’s mad props. But the bike is something most of us to could build at home, outsourcing the engine and paint… Is that Biker Build off worthy??? Considering what Jr. and Sr. get away with building I tend to say yeah.

OCC’s bike is really ugly and we all know it would handle about as good as it looks. But you have to admit there was a ton of engineering that went into the build which is very cool. It reminds me of those confederate wrath bikes. And hey let’s be honest here it’s a bike at least. Truthfully there are only three bikes they have built on that show that were ok looking, Cody’s bike, the David Mann tribute bike, and one of Sr.’s bike using a Sugar Bear front end. That’s a Sr. bike that would do good at this event. More Sr. less OCC.

PJD is worse than OCC. The dude is a designer and not a rider. And the bikes he builds reflects that. They appeal to the main stream people, that makes him money, and has kept them on the air for years. Even my wife laughs at his bikes lol..

And ol Jesse, man I would love to have his talent. It’s crazy to see the amount of design work going into his bike. We all know Jesse rides and his bikes reflect it. The issue is no one is really going to know how much goes into designing a bike from scratch that is going to handle like a late model R1 or Duc. Gas Monkey and PJD couldn’t do it. OCC could, but did you see the so called sport bike they built earlier in the year? It had trendy parts but in a weird package.
I respect the design and fab work but I really don’t like the way his bike looks. If you want a HD that handles get a FXR, put a crazy twin cam engine in it and killer suspension. If you want an American made sport bike go see EBR.

Who will win? Who knows cause these shows are all about what speaks to people visually from their lazy boys. To be honest as much as I want Jesse to win I kind of hope Gas Monkey takes it to just screw with everyone. They came with the only bike I would ride and heck they got more miles on their bike than anyone else!

[Tews19]

Racin, EBR is in my backyard. I see them at all the local bike nights and my friends are close with a few of the team members.

[Don R]

Monkeys built a jesse james bike, Jesse built an occ bike, Jr did what he always does, OCC is off the wall not sure how it really looks.  I like the monkey's bike that's on the road, finished on time but does it have any front brake at all? To me that's a must have deal no matter how it looks. That puts it in the show bike catagory with the others. I didn't have a clear winner. Didn't vote.

[luap]

PJD. who the fu(K told him it was a theme bike build off Terrible- Think he should take jesse james up on going down to texas an hone some of the skills he does have. He will be out of the bike building industry in a year not that SR vs Jr is finished

OCC bike- If it was turn on your millions of  dollar machine an turn some bolts hes the winner. Front end could have been done alot better

Jesse James. would have liked to see him forge that frame by hand, see him form the tank... Needed to see more of the work he did on the bike. 

GMG who couldnt relate to those guys. IMO only guys that build a real everyday motorcycle. give my vote them them

[Roach Carver]

The only bike I liked was GMG. Cool bike, they busted balls to complete it on time. got on it and rode it there? obvious choice to me although I wont be voting.

OCC? how is it every time they try to make a performance bike they build some harley abortion. Have they never seen a race/performance bike? they sure dont have a girder front end. That fancy rear spring they used is at full compression when the put their ass on it. great engineering...

PJD another cluttered up farkeled POS.

JJ, he's just a real d1ck. You can tell hes bothered that he lost last year because he talks about it constantly and how he doesnt care, wasnt prepared, blah blah blah. He is talented but I just cant listen to him go on and on about how great he is.

[racinchase]

Racin, EBR is in my backyard. I see them at all the local bike nights and my friends are close with a few of the team members.

That's awesome! I love watching them race on TV. Hoping to go to Barber and NOLA next year and catch some AMA racing! Might even ride the CB out there lol. Only three and a half hours from the house to eather track and the CB is way better on tires than my R1.

[matt mattison]

They should have not wasted these builders time and just went straight to the popularity contest . The OCC bike looks like a Confederate Hellcat rip off to me. PJD bikes aren't as much bikes as they are something to look at. JJ and GMG were the best , most functional machines to me. Would have been nice to have someone test ride each machine and give feedback during that show .

[bjatwood]

PJD wins a second straight title!
I like how well JJ handled the GMG guys and the slap off they had on Monday night at the HardRock Hotel. Good stuff
1st and 2nd place for a Chopper buildoff were right on the money... this was NOT a sport bike build off.....

[Tews19]

I think it was stagged. A group of my buddies here all stated Jr's bike was the worst one. Even on the ride on stage, Jr had difficulty steering it. His body was half off the seat, half on the tank.

To top it off, once the winner was announced the crowd was realitively quiet and they cut to commerical. What a wasted 90 minutes I will never get back

[BobbyR]

I live about 30-45 minutes from OCC. I have been in their shops in Rock Tavern and Newburgh. I have nevr failed to be disapointed in their bikes. The are a bit rough looking and they are continually being sued for bikes they built for people in the area. The paint jobs are not a nice as they look on TV.

I liked Jesse James bike since he stepped outside his comfort zone and it was unique. Street Fighters are usually sparse looking and functional.  I have seen Jesse James bikes in person and the are way above OCC in quality.

I liked Paul Srs Bike. It was a step up for him. It was busy but modern. He just soem of the retro springer look in the front. Nice looking bike.

The Fast and Loud bike was Old School and nice and neat. In my opinion it looked ridable and buildable by an enthiusist.


The Paul Jr bike is a "Circius Wagon".  He alwsys goes over the top with some theme carap and has no real understanding of building a motorcycle.

Oddly enough I think Paul Sr should have placed 2nd and Fast and Loud 1st. Jeese had missed the point of what he was building. He would have been better off with a Cafe. 

[Tews19]

Same thoughts bobbyR!

Did you see Jesse's sketch of what he intended to do? That bike was fierce! If you can look for the drawing he did.

[greenjeans]

I don't even know where to start.

I really hate that PJD calls himself a "designer".    He clearly has no training/schooling in the fundamentals or principles of basic design.
He has some talent, and many of his ideas are close - they just aren't executed.   I feel sorry for his metal guy - he must have a great deal of patience.
PJ knows what he doesn't want - not what he wants.     If that bike were given to me, I wouldn't even ride it.  I'd see how fast I could sell it.

GasMonkey - they are where the rest of these guys were a decade ago.  They built the best rideable bike, but that was a clear Cole Foster rip-off of a decade ago. Still - I do like the style of that bike.   "Classic" never goes out of style.   They will get wise and start getting the free machinery and tools if they stay on TV.   At least they are good-natured fun guys at the bottom of it all.  They are flippers - but have a decent hot-rod style to them.
It was great that they rode the entire way up there.   They were probably the only team that had the "time" to do it.  Those other guys have too many
obligations these days.

OCC - I thought they might finally build something cool.   The bike was another "almost"   That girder front was just hideous.  Just killed the rest of the
bike.   It did actually look rideable and the annodizing was really killer.   They have one of the best machinists in the industry.  Their "designer" Jason is
very proficient in his software - it's his design skills that are severly lacking.   I mean, this guy still designs tribal wheels on a regular basis etc.

Jesse James disappointed me the most.   He clearly has the best skill set.   I really liked his bike from last year. He just shoots himself in the foot over and over playing the part of the asshat he's created and perpetuated over the years.    I mean - that bike looked like the bike he built 8 years ago....it even had purple accents....purple.      And about his skill set - all he really has is experience.  He was lucky enough to be at the right place right time years ago.  He has/had a good work ethic and a great deal of knowledge and experience with some old machinery - lucky to have.   But, when it comes down to it, he is limited in his actual design skills as well.   He is a tremendous fabricator, with very few equals - I'll give him that.
Still - I wanted so much more out of him.   When I first saw the commercials for the build-off, I thought he would crush them this time.


Can't believe PJD won that thing.   He was the first to really use social marketing out of the others and it helped.   It's hard for me to believe that the
majority of people liked that bike.    I guess it was the lesser of 3 evils.

Overall, a complete disappointment.     I wish they'd go back to the original format for biker build-off.   You saw a lot more heart and soul in those bikes.

[bjatwood]

Let me guess something here on the PJD hate theme...you all voted for Romney right?!

[greenjeans]

ha.      If you had to have one of those bikes would you really choose PJD's ?      He comes close on alot of things - just can't put them together in a harmonious way.    The red rim with the white wall was almost cool - I say almost because he put 80 red spokes in there....what's vintage about 80 spoke motorcycle rims...    40 is plenty - stainless spokes would have looked so much better.    And the "colored" chains - can we all agree that is silly ?    They only look red/clean once - after 5 miles they will always look old and dirty.

To each his own....

I felt that Jesse's initial offering of spending time with him down in Austin was not meant to be a slap. 

[FrankenFrankenstuff]

My only problem witht he show was the host. His delivery was painful and awkward.

 If I was to vote, it would have been for the fast and loud bike. It was a true built bike. The other builders are like dressmakers who all think they are reinventing the wheel...but at the end of the day, all they made was an ugly overpriced, overthought, over worked dress.

This was a soap opera for the N. American male.

If I HAD to take one of those bikes home it would have been the Jesse bike. I could ride the snot out of it. The others dont look like fun.

[Damfino]

I think the fact that Paul Jr. is respectful and thankful towards his fans goes a long way towards helping him come out on top as the winner. Paul Sr. on the other hand is aloof and never aknowledges fan support. I've been a long time fan of JJ, but even I got tired of him telling everyone how great he is.    Yes, the competition should be about the bikes, but in the end it's still a popularity contest as well. Congrats to newcomers GMG for coming in 2nd. I like their show even though they seem to lose their ass on everything they build & buy!

[matt mattison]

I felt that Jesse's initial offering of spending time with him down in Austin was not meant to be a slap.
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+1 ^^. The host/network kinda twisted JJ words around IMHO. The whole thing seemed too contrived. Even " the feud " between JJ and FNL. It's a set up for another build off. I felt like I was watching professional wrestling.

[Don R]

I always found anyone (JJ)  that spent a lot of time telling how great they are have something lacking. OCC and JR lost my intrest a long time ago. Grease monkeys seems to be the least contrived, the dude with the beard needs to get a life and stop sleeping in the shop. If he really does.