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Re: Yolanda 2.0 uh oh....not good :(
« Reply #725 on: November 12, 2013, 05:32:08 PM »
Just read this entire thread - it was like a good novel. Major props to you for diving in with such determination and what a result. When I got to your "off" I could not help but say "Oh no!" out loud.

Much respect and good luck getting your sweetheart back together Chef.

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Re: Yolanda 2.0 uh oh....not good :(
« Reply #726 on: November 12, 2013, 08:44:12 PM »
Well, if anyone can do it, it's you! Wish you were closer to MI. There are about 3-4 decent looking project bikes/engines on craigslist right now.

It's also impressive that you're so resolved to get back on so quick. I layed the bike down while taking my MSF course, and if it wasnt for the 20 other people there staring at me, I don't know if I would have had the balls to get back on so quick.
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Re: Yolanda 2.0 uh oh....not good :(
« Reply #727 on: November 12, 2013, 09:31:10 PM »
thanks for the encouragement. I am too stubborn to let this get the best of me! it is a journey and I can't wait to tell my kids one day!

Talked with Bill, he has motors, good. now to see if he has a complete running good condition motor :D

made a little progress tonight. just because the engine is currently jacked up doesnt mean I cant move forward!

look at that shiny chrome.....so mangled. scrap metal



I used my matrix skills to bend it back into shape. no just kidding, new DID rim



all laced up with new spokes and all spokes tight. will true tomorrow. feels like I just did this...



also I printed off the shop manual. all 300 pages. got it in a 3 hole binder with tabs for each section. just a little shop keeping. glad to have it in print!



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Re: Yolanda 2.0 uh oh....not good :(
« Reply #728 on: November 13, 2013, 06:54:34 AM »
Damn man.. last time I was read this you were just about ready to take her on the road. What a $%#& bummer. Gotta be very frustrating. I applaud your courage for just getting right back into it.
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Re: Yolanda 2.0 moving forward one piece at a time
« Reply #729 on: November 14, 2013, 07:24:56 PM »
wheel is true up, I think its better than before and it only took me about 30-45 minutes total this time. much faster ;)

just need to get the tire and new tube on there and thats one thing off the list. tomorrow I will be getting a compressor and another soda blaster from harbor freight. I used my dads compressor last winter but I am not living at home and need my own. as soon as I get this I will be blasting all of my front end parts and prepping for paint. nothing to really take pictures of now.

got off the phone with Bill Benton, he has a K5 engine he is going to take pictures of etc. he says its running and not leaking. higher mileage (30-50k). waiting. keeping fingers crossed for an easy swap. I will transfer my chromed covers to it, spruce up the oil pump, and transfer my oil pressure gauge to it.

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Re: Yolanda 2.0 moving forward one piece at a time
« Reply #730 on: December 02, 2013, 06:42:29 PM »
about time for an update. Fiona is up and running, tagged and insured. I can move full steam ahead with rebuilding Yolanda. I got the engine from Bill Benton. its from a 75F, so we had to pull the exhaust studs to put the K style collars on. 6 came out fairly easy with penetrating oil, heat, and double nut. the two inner studs were a bear. stripped out a few nuts trying. eventually we had to vice grip the studs and they shifted loose, and we knew all was well to get them out. Bill was kind enough to set points, cam chain tension, and valve gaps. then I loaded up the engine and made the 4 hour journey back to Savannah. I should be cleaning and blasting the engine over the next few days, then painting it. I have all of my parts needed to rebuild.

one problem though. the K1 frame I picked up in Charleston has a holey section near the swingarm holes. of course this is all after I soda blasted the frame and spent time with the wire wheel getting all the paint and rust off. go figure. I got out all the crud, and picked at it until nothing else crumbled or fell out. its a decent sized hole on both sides. I know this is a critical part of the frame. I am not sure what needs to be done here. I will be posting in the sohc bikes forum too.









and here is the crap that came out of it




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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #731 on: December 03, 2013, 12:35:41 AM »
If it was me, I would weld it and forget it.
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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #732 on: December 03, 2013, 03:15:23 AM »
If it was me, I would weld it and forget it.
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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #733 on: December 03, 2013, 05:35:54 AM »
If it was me, I would weld it and forget it.
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+1... Exactly what I was thinking. 
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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #734 on: December 03, 2013, 06:14:56 AM »
thats what I figured. working on finding a local welder. found on in ATL thats part of the georgia motorcycle rider group I am in. wants $65 for the repair. seems fair as I have no experience with welding. trying to find someone local though because I really don't want to spend $90 to drive to ATL and back.

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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #735 on: December 03, 2013, 06:27:39 AM »
thats what I figured. working on finding a local welder. found on in ATL thats part of the georgia motorcycle rider group I am in. wants $65 for the repair. seems fair as I have no experience with welding. trying to find someone local though because I really don't want to spend $90 to drive to ATL and back.

It's a small repair and basically a minimum charge, $65 doesn't sound outrageous.
You could prolly find a guy at a local muffler shop to do it cheaper, but you might get what you pay for, ya know? It would take a pro 15 min to do it.
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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #736 on: December 03, 2013, 06:41:46 AM »
Second that, go for it, chef. 

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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #737 on: December 03, 2013, 08:25:13 AM »
about time for an update. Fiona is up and running, tagged and insured. I can move full steam ahead with rebuilding Yolanda. I got the engine from Bill Benton. its from a 75F, so we had to pull the exhaust studs to put the K style collars on. 6 came out fairly easy with penetrating oil, heat, and double nut. the two inner studs were a bear. stripped out a few nuts trying. eventually we had to vice grip the studs and they shifted loose, and we knew all was well to get them out. Bill was kind enough to set points, cam chain tension, and valve gaps. then I loaded up the engine and made the 4 hour journey back to Savannah. I should be cleaning and blasting the engine over the next few days, then painting it. I have all of my parts needed to rebuild.

one problem though. the K1 frame I picked up in Charleston has a holey section near the swingarm holes. of course this is all after I soda blasted the frame and spent time with the wire wheel getting all the paint and rust off. go figure. I got out all the crud, and picked at it until nothing else crumbled or fell out. its a decent sized hole on both sides. I know this is a critical part of the frame. I am not sure what needs to be done here. I will be posting in the sohc bikes forum too.









and here is the crap that came out of it




Is it just me or are the welds in the second photo just really really ugly? It looks like the weld doesn't even make it completely around to tube at the top of the photo.
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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #738 on: December 03, 2013, 08:41:02 AM »
x2 ^^^

... is that factory or a bad repair?

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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #739 on: December 03, 2013, 09:04:34 AM »
Yeah...gonna have to check that when I get home. Good news is a found a local welder. A buddy of mine. We used to play in a band together. Forgot he does fab work now, he used to be a chef too.

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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #740 on: December 03, 2013, 07:45:18 PM »
checked that "weld" area that looked funky. its the lighting combined with some leftover paint primer along the crease there that I missed. it most definitely solid and not nearly as bad looking in person. I was a little worried there too! hopefully tomorrow my buddy can get my frame and in the next few days have that done. then its time for frame paint.

thursday pending no rain I should be soda blasting the engine and prepping it for paint. I think I am just going to paint the engine whole (covers and all). drop it in and make sure all is in order, than change out the painted covers for the chrome covers I have.

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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #741 on: December 03, 2013, 07:58:17 PM »
Danny pointed out what I was thinking yesterday too. I was thinking it looks like it was damaged prior and repaired. There is a K1 or K2 frame listed in West bend by me for 150 with title. I think it could be had for much cheaper..

I know you do not want to use your original frame but didn't you say you weren't sure if it was damaged? I am sure a member close to you who has some experience checking frames out may help you. For all you know your frame is good to go...
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Re: Yolanda 2.0 new frame damage help
« Reply #742 on: December 03, 2013, 08:06:44 PM »
I am not positive about damage and repair there, but in the picture there is some crud still there not to mention the paint. the large 4.5" wire wheel can only get so close. the metal around it is clean and polished, and the nooks and crannies are dark, and dirty. I am fairly certain its the photo not being able to capture it properly. it looks fine in person.

at this point I already have two MORE frames, and don't really know anyone around here who can check for frame alignment etc. plus the first frame was not cleaned this well.....I just painted over old paint. this frame will be properly prepped this time ;) and yes this frame has a title with it, the old one did not.

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Re: Yolanda 2.0 Moving Forward
« Reply #743 on: December 19, 2013, 06:36:36 AM »
funny how it is a year later since I bought the bike! I have learned SO much from this forum. my brain is a sponge and is soaking up little tid bits of info as well as too many DOH! moments. I am very thankful for the family-like support from you guys here. I have made some of my greatest friends on motorcycles and am sure that won't cease. enough of the sap, onto business.

I finally have something to report! I picked up a '75 engine from Bill Benton. it had the exhaust studs on it instead of the exhaust flanges. he was kind enough to help get them out before I brought the engine all the way back from ATL. they were a bear. well, 2 of them in the center where the most heat is were almost welded in there. lots of heat, penetrating oil, hammers, and finally vice grips did the trick. all other 6 were extracted with the double nut method. here is the only picture I took of the engine.



engine seems to be in good condition. he said it was higher mileage (30-50) and was taken out in favor of a hot rodded engine. crossing fingers for leak free/smoke free operation. if nothing else we got the cam chain tensioner adjusted, as well as the valves and timing. it was a fair amount of dirty and cakey. took lots of brushing, soda blasting, more brushing, more brushing, and more brushing to clean. then it was time for paint. I love the way Yolandas engine looked so I used the same VHT engine paint. cast aluminum #995. now to keep that pretty paint pretty. found a post here awhile back regarding engine paint curing. I am not taking this engine apart unless I have to, so I painted it whole like the first. I could not cure the first one though because it would not fit in the oven.

it would not fit in the KITCHEN oven, but nobody said you can't MAKE an oven. well that can't be accurate, I am sure someone has said that, but they haven't said it to me! I made an oven out of a cobbled together cardboard box large enough to fit over the entire assembly. I used a spray adhesive and lined the inside with aluminum foil. I cut a flap in the top for venting (didn't use it). I cut a hole in one corner of the shorter end to put my heat gun in there to blow heat along the long side and the cut another hole at the end of the long side facing across for my hair dryer. this way I could supply heat from the heat gun and use the hair dryer to really distribute the heat in the box. I also covered the table underneath with foil. cardboard does not ignite at a temperature that low so I was not concerned about fire. I sat outside and supervised the whole time though. I placed old t-shirts around the perimeter of the base to help insulate it. by golly it worked. I had a meat thermometer I used frequently to check in different places. coolest areas seemed to be 180 and hottest were 220. fine by me! I cured it for 1.5 hours and its solid as a rock! so now I have a portable parts curing oven that will fit a cb750 engine.





and when the engine emerged.....very pretty. I used about 6 coats of the VHT paint. 2 cans did the trick. 10-15 minutes between coats. kept the paint can warm. even though it was 55 outside, the warm paint seemed to stick and dry very well.







Don't mind the engine guard bar, it was used to help keep the engine propped up so it did not fall forward.


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Re: Yolanda 2.0 Moving Forward
« Reply #744 on: December 19, 2013, 06:43:37 AM »
The Chef made an oven, very clever. 
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Re: Yolanda 2.0 Moving Forward
« Reply #745 on: December 19, 2013, 06:46:45 AM »
The Chef made an oven, very clever.

I was wondering who would be the first to point that out. I could cook eggs on a piece of sheet metal with a heat gun underneath. sometimes in a professional kitchen we have to make do. equipment fails, but the tickets coming in do not ;)

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Re: Yolanda 2.0 Moving Forward
« Reply #746 on: December 19, 2013, 07:12:21 AM »
The Chef made an oven, very clever.

I was wondering who would be the first to point that out. I could cook eggs on a piece of sheet metal with a heat gun underneath. sometimes in a professional kitchen we have to make do. equipment fails, but the tickets coming in do not ;)
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Re: Yolanda 2.0 Moving Forward
« Reply #747 on: December 19, 2013, 07:25:27 AM »
Hey Chef,   Want to sell that oven??    My wife is looking for a new one and I figure I could save some
money over one of those fancy store bought ovens.   ;D

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Re: Yolanda 2.0 Moving Forward
« Reply #748 on: December 19, 2013, 07:41:02 AM »
Hey Chef,   Want to sell that oven??    My wife is looking for a new one and I figure I could save some
money over one of those fancy store bought ovens.   ;D

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I wanted to put some brownies in there but I ended up just eating the batter. they never make it to the oven.

in more news, the frame is done as well. this is a K1 frame I picked up in Charleston SC. it had some rust holes, they were fixed up and welded by a buddy of mine. I grinded down the front engine mount flanges to aid in dropping in the engine. I used Eastwoods rust encapsulator as primer and their Extreme chassis black satin. 2 cans of each. it looks much better than the first frame since I took all the old paint off. its much smoother. ignore that funky color going on at the side stand area. its black.




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Re: Yolanda 2.0 Moving Forward
« Reply #749 on: December 19, 2013, 08:03:42 AM »
parts pile! waiting on the all balls steering tapered bearings....then its game on!