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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2012, 04:07:20 PM »
Just saw this statistic on the news: 47% of American households have at least 1 gun. 
These mass shootings are a major problem and there may not be an answer on how to stop them. Gun control? Do you think they will hand them over? Doubt it.
I had a gun, a nice SS .380 semi automatic.  My buddy has a 600 acre ranch, loved to o and shoot.  I no longer have it, my wife and I decided when we had our daughter, we id not want guns in the house.  I feel very safe without it.
Reminds me of the bumper sticker, If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2012, 04:10:25 PM »
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These mass shootings are a major problem and there may not be an answer on how to stop them. Gun control? Do you think they will hand them over? Doubt it.

We had a massive buy back of guns here years ago, you would be amazed at how many people were willing to hand them in once cash was involved....
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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2012, 04:16:33 PM »
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Not to mention, how does getting rid of guns prevent determined individuals (i.e.: criminals) from getting their hands on them?

What it does stop is opportunists like most of the kids that commit these heinous crimes from easy access to guns..
Hardened criminals have the contacts, nobodies that have a brain snap don't, but because the guns are so easy available, its easy, too easy. If my kids had to go through metal detectors and have armed guards at their school i would be looking for a new country to live in. And just for some clarification, i am quite competent with a gun, my brothers in law were Australasian trap and skeet champions, so i am not a anti gun loony, big difference being, in my country i don't need a gun to feel either safe or to defend myself.....  I would have loved to see the a-hole in the cinema shooting not long back try to stab all his adult victims, not even close to the same thing...

And the stabbing was done at the entrance gates to the school... that couldn't happen at the front doors of a movie theater???

And I don't think people on the opposition are gun-grabbing nutjobs either. Nor am I some crazy Western PA hillbilly hick with a gun warehouse--actually, I don't even own a gun. But I do always have a knife on hand and do plan to get a conceal carry permit

I understand where you are coming from and what you are saying. We have the same goal; to stop people from using guns in horrible and disgusting ways. However, what it all boils down to: will making firearms illegal stop gun crimes?

To which I ask: Does making cocaine and heroin illegal stop drug dealers and addicts? Ought we make all heavy and/or sharp objects like knives or arrows (or even shovels) illegal so nobody can kill someone with them as a weapon either?--ridiculous, I know; but it makes my point. Whether you are purchasing an illegal product or taking a life, it all rests in the hands of the individual. If a person has a lack of morals they do seemingly irrational things and NO amount of human laws or restrictions are going to stop them. That is the power and responsibility of being a human in general. Hence, the responsibility of gun owners to protect their fellow man, keep their firearm secure, and instruct their children (or whoever really) on the immense danger and responsibility of owning/possessing/using one.
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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2012, 04:42:19 PM »
This is an horrific tragedy, and no amount of arguing on the internet is going to make it any easier or better.  Different people are going to have different opinions, and we are going to be respectful of each other both when expressing those opinions and when responding to them.  There is no place or need for name-calling here.   

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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2012, 04:53:46 PM »
This is an horrific tragedy, and no amount of arguing on the internet is going to make it any easier or better.  Different people are going to have different opinions, and we are going to be respectful of each other both when expressing those opinions and when responding to them.  There is no place or need for name-calling here.   

What he said. If it continues, the thread will be locked.
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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2012, 05:01:04 PM »
It has been a long time since I felt this low. Those poor young innocent souls, how awful.


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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2012, 05:13:42 PM »
I agree. For now, we mourn the loss. There will be another time for debate. I apologize if anyone took offense as this is an extremely emotional time for a rather sensitive issue.
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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2012, 05:17:12 PM »
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There will be another time for debate.

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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2012, 06:23:42 AM »
Heartfelt sympathy, to all those parents and friends, of all concerned, what a tragedy

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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2012, 05:21:45 AM »
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There will be another time for debate.

Correct.

That is what they said after Columbine, after VA Tech, after Aurora, etc. yet nothing has changed. There will never be a convenient time. The time is now. All it took was one nutjob to board a plane with a shoe bomb and we are still taking our shoes off at the airport. 20 children get shot and killed and we can't even have an adult conversation about it.

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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2012, 06:17:37 AM »
The conversations don 't remain "adult " sadly,  so they should be taken elsewhere.
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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2012, 12:30:11 PM »
too close to home.I buried my mom on thursday in Newtown Ct.Then on Friday this happens,a member of my sisters church was one of the victims.Words cannot express the sadness in my heart.If you gun nuts have anything to say about gun rights,now is the time to not say anything,keep it to yourselves.Thank god my wife and son are Canadian,as we are getting out of this country.
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Re: WTF is going on in this world!!!!!
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2012, 08:05:44 AM »
too close to home.I buried my mom on thursday in Newtown Ct.Then on Friday this happens,a member of my sisters church was one of the victims.Words cannot express the sadness in my heart.If you gun nuts have anything to say about gun rights,now is the time to not say anything,keep it to yourselves.Thank god my wife and son are Canadian,as we are getting out of this country.
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