Topic: CYCLEX DRAG BIKE.......INTO THE 8'S!!!

[cbr954]

What exactly did RC do to the clutch hubs to make them stronger? 

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Not quite sure, think welding involved. Bill

[MRieck]

Not quite sure, think welding involved. Bill

Yes. It basically eliminates the cush drive. It has been discussed in the past.

[dragracer]

Not quite sure, think welding involved. Bill

Yes. It basically eliminates the cush drive. It has been discussed in the past.

Mike, was any of that data posted on this site?? I'd like to look further into it myself. I doubt i'll push the envelope of the clutch basket on my no bar set up but it won't hurt to reinforce any weak links in the drive line before it becomes a problem.

[POPS 911]

At the V-Twin show in Cincinnati this past weekend I talked to the BARNETT REP about the billet clutch basket they have for SOHC 750, why weld when you can buy a stronger than stock basket They have DEEP CRYOGENIC TEMPERING aluminum drive plates treated at minus 300 degrees then , hard anodized for added durability. One third the weight of steel plates for less rotating mass and quicker throttle response = a drag racers dream ..................... but not any for the SOHC/4  750CC HONDA. Get a large order up and maybe they would stamp out a few hundred sets, I'll ask at INDY.

POPS BK911

[MRieck]

At the V-Twin show in Cincinnati this past weekend I talked to the BARNETT REP about the billet clutch basket they have for SOHC 750, why weld when you can buy a stronger than stock basket They have DEEP CRYOGENIC TEMPERING aluminum drive plates treated at minus 300 degrees then , hard anodized for added durability. One third the weight of steel plates for less rotating mass and quicker throttle response = a drag racers dream ..................... but not any for the SOHC/4  750CC HONDA. Get a large order up and maybe they would stamp out a few hundred sets, I'll ask at INDY.

POPS BK911

Not talking about the basket....talking about the primary cush drive system. Welding the cover to the hub so there is no movement. Mark McGrew talked about this and pics of RC units have been posted. It does put more of a strain on the chains etc. Kind of like aftermarket rims with no cush drive system.

[kmb69]

Not talking about the basket....talking about the primary cush drive system. Welding the cover to the hub so there is no movement. Mark McGrew talked about this and pics of RC units have been posted. It does put more of a strain on the chains etc. Kind of like aftermarket rims with no cush drive system.

The solid welded primary was on their race bikes. Their mod for Hi-Po street bikes was to weld the 2 primary sprockets together to try to prevent a weak chain from taking both of them out. Still used the dampers but for both sprockets simultaneously instead of the stock "dual floating" arrangement.

[dragracer]

At the V-Twin show in Cincinnati this past weekend I talked to the BARNETT REP about the billet clutch basket they have for SOHC 750, why weld when you can buy a stronger than stock basket They have DEEP CRYOGENIC TEMPERING aluminum drive plates treated at minus 300 degrees then , hard anodized for added durability. One third the weight of steel plates for less rotating mass and quicker throttle response = a drag racers dream ..................... but not any for the SOHC/4  750CC HONDA. Get a large order up and maybe they would stamp out a few hundred sets, I'll ask at INDY.

POPS BK911

Not talking about the basket....talking about the primary cush drive system. Welding the cover to the hub so there is no movement. Mark McGrew talked about this and pics of RC units have been posted. It does put more of a strain on the chains etc. Kind of like aftermarket rims with no cush drive system.

Hmmm, i think i'd rather the primary cush fail than have a chain slap aloose inside my cases. I'll leave it alone for now. With the suspended no bar set up and a street tire some driveline dampening might be advantageous versus the CycleX build where he will be leaving full throttle off a 2 step with a set of wheelie bars and a 7" slick. I'm doing away with the cush drive rear wheel and going with the solid PM Chicane race wheel.

If the CycleX bike is making its debut in Indy, I might have to adjust my schedule to participate in that race. Mike, do you intend to be there???

[kmb69]

Hmmm, i think i'd rather the primary cush fail than have a chain slap aloose inside my cases. I'll leave it alone for now. With the suspended no bar set up and a street tire some driveline dampening might be advantageous versus the CycleX build where he will be leaving full throttle off a 2 step with a set of wheelie bars and a 7" slick. I'm doing away with the cush drive rear wheel and going with the solid PM Chicane race wheel.

Usually if the primary cush fails, the primary chains break and knock a hole in the cases.

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

Yeah Mike, you going? I may ride the Fat Boy in unless I can install a trailer hitch on the Vette and bring a REAL 750!?!?

[dragracer]

Yeah Mike, you going? I may ride the Fat Boy in unless I can install a trailer hitch on the Vette and bring a REAL 750!?!?

Rent a pickup from Enterprise and throw it on the back.

[dragracer]

Or do like i did one year, i rented a mini van and took all the seats out so i could bring my bike to Daytona Bike Week.

[Sam Green Racing]

part time bikers, 

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

I usually go for a RIDE in August. Say anywhere from 2000 miles to 5000+ miles. Maybe I should just get a hitch for the Fat Boy and bring the Honda along......

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Well,you'd have at least one reliable bike to get home with!!!! Bill

[POPS 911]

 SEMI CUSH :  We filled the cush drive rubbers with silicone then swished the drive hub in and wiped off the over flow, for a semi- solid rear wheel with a little shock for the all.... broke a few RK630HD chains leaving at [ 9800-10,000 rpm, throw out the clutch on the two step ,red springs shimmed ] that went out the back and one that broke the shift shaft and case cover on ZIR. Speaking about baskets you do ding the fingers and make the disc stick in and out, de-burr finger, check tabs on disc weekly for Bracket ET bike.... on any PRO BIKE every pass.

POPS BK911

[Big Jay]

Jay, not sure.I'll find out. Your name did come up! .He's racing a Nova street car these days....9.20's!! He still had the 750 engine until he sold it to another old school dragracer, just a couple years ago.He's going to look for some pics for us. Bill

Gary called today. Had a great conversation catching up.  Also talked with Kenny about the bike.

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Jay,PM'd you before I read this! Way Cool!! Bill

[MRieck]

Yeah Mike, you going? I may ride the Fat Boy in unless I can install a trailer hitch on the Vette and bring a REAL 750!?!?

Don't know yet Jerry. Logistics is a PITA. An aside....looking over the new Corvette....what a piece of machinery! That Stingray is the balls with 7 speed, 600HP etc. Looks fantastic too.

[MRieck]

SEMI CUSH :  We filled the cush drive rubbers with silicone then swished the drive hub in and wiped off the over flow, for a semi- solid rear wheel with a little shock for the all.... broke a few RK630HD chains leaving at [ 9800-10,000 rpm, throw out the clutch on the two step ,red springs shimmed ] that went out the back and one that broke the shift shaft and case cover on ZIR. Speaking about baskets you do ding the fingers and make the disc stick in and out, de-burr finger, check tabs on disc weekly for Bracket ET bike.... on any PRO BIKE every pass.

POPS BK911

Interesting idea but househols silicone is still pretty compressible. Don't get me wrong Pops...it was an idea to solve a problem....I appreciate that. Breaking a 630 is a bit F'd up but it was the 1880's. I'd smooth, bead blast and cyro a steel basket....it will last a long, long, long time.

[Bill/BentON Racing]

Look real good next to RC51, where my C5 2001 used to sit! Black on black with all the options....$10, 000 worth!!!  Bill.....sure miss it and that sound @ WFO!!
Mike, mods I was talking about. Wow Cowboy Russ....1880,'s some fast  wagons back then! Ask Sam! Lol, Bill

[dragracer]

1880's , good one Mike. Hahaha!!

[Big Jay]

Yeah Mike, you going? I may ride the Fat Boy in unless I can install a trailer hitch on the Vette and bring a REAL 750!?!?

What kind of Vette do you have?

[MRieck]

Yeah Mike, you going? I may ride the Fat Boy in unless I can install a trailer hitch on the Vette and bring a REAL 750!?!?

What kind of Vette do you have?

A red one Jay.   Yeah Jerry...post those pics you got. It was a older than mid life, I just got divorced crisis buy Jay.

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

Yeah Mike, you going? I may ride the Fat Boy in unless I can install a trailer hitch on the Vette and bring a REAL 750!?!?

What kind of Vette do you have?

2012 Grand Sport



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