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New CBX pics: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« on: January 18, 2013, 07:00:23 AM »
Well gang, I decided I had to back out of my CB550 plans for a number of reasons, and I sold off my daily rider at the same time, with the intention of picking up something very different over the winter.

About a week and a half ago I lucked into this sucker:


A 1979 CBX - something I've been curious about for 25+ years since I first read an article in a motorcycle mag that pointed to it as an example of ill-considered engineering excess.  ;D

The bike has had the same owner for 30+ years (he bought it from the original owner), and it has been his BABY.  I mean, he doesn't just have a scrapbook with pics of the bike and all service/mod records through the years - that scrapbook has a custom engraved leather cover. :)

It has about 70,000 km on it total, but only 20,000 km since the motor was rebuilt by Scott Miller of Fast Company fame (aka the head builder and crew chief for Honda's team in Canadian Superbike until recently).  It's been recently painted, electrical system fixed up (new batt and r/r), new throttle, clutch, and choke cables, new swingarm and head bearings, recovered seat, rebuilt carbs, and a lot of little things.  It's been stored indoors in a heated garage for its whole life.

It's rockin' CB1100F wheels which mean some slightly better rubber choices and way, way better looks than the stock comstars IMO. Also has the 1100F's dual-piston brakes.

My plan for this bike is to basically just ride it and be happy.  I'll probably have some basic improvements done for the suspension (new shocks for the rear and a fork brace & cartridge emulators for the front), and it needs a new midpipe and muffler (currently has a Gary Wolf 6-2-1 header on it), but otherwise it's ready for action.

Hopefully I'll be riding it by March, if the work/mods and weather permit.  :)
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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2013, 11:26:37 AM »
I've got to say that I LOVE the way the motor sticks out on these bikes.  It looks too big for it.  Someone should Cafe one.  Not this one because its too nice but they should build one.
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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2013, 12:01:33 PM »
have drive mine for 2 sesons now...first  you hit  8-10,000 rpm it pulls like a rocket..be kare if it are in the low gears..
have all the charm from 70"bikes...and runs like an mid 80" bike
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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2013, 12:21:19 PM »
Freakin' LOVE CBX's...SUBSCRIBED ;D

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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2013, 01:03:19 PM »
I've got to say that I LOVE the way the motor sticks out on these bikes.
You and me, both. :)

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It looks too big for it.
It is too big for it.  Even the I4 engines are a bit too wide, but the I6 is way, way too wide. Which is what makes it awesome. :)

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Someone should Cafe one.  Not this one because its too nice but they should build one.
It's in awesome shape, but it has some (reversible) mods already and I have no intention of keeping it original.  Got a round of mods planned for the short term and longer term, too.
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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2013, 07:18:36 PM »
Great buy syscrush. 8) 8) 8) 8)

Keep the Wolf pipe, much better than stock, and very rare.  His pipes are as good as Hindle's. ;)  If you can find some Hondaline case guards install them.  The only thing that hits the ground if it falls over is the engine. :(
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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2013, 07:25:50 PM »
Excellent!

I don't believe those are 1100F rims but a very sought after set of aftermarkets. I think they call them boomy wheels. Then again they might be 1100F wheels. I learn everyday.

Yeah, I want another myself. Don't ride the 750 so I might as well sell it and shop for a 79/80 model.

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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2013, 07:28:47 PM »
Ok. I LOVE those bikes! ;D Ever since I first saw one I've wanted one (of course, that applies to just about ANY bike ;) ). You take care of that girl and definitely get some case savers!

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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2013, 08:06:41 PM »
The golden boomerangs are undoubtedly real Canadian-market CB1100F items - 18x2.5 front, 17x3.0 rear.  It also has the CB1100F rotors and twin-piston calipers.  The current owner has had it for over 30 years (he bought it from the original owner) and swapping those wheels and brakes on it was a mod he did in the mid-80's (before those wheels were rare or sought-after) along with the installation of those Fox piggyback shocks.  I saw pics in his scrapbook of the bike before and after.

I am keeping the Wolf pipe, ordered a new muffler today (Hindle oval 16x2 with black body and stainless tip - the Stealth model plus a dB killer insert).  I found a shop willing and able to bend a custom midpipe and mount the can.

I've wanted one of these for a long, long time - I couldn't believe that I found one in this shape, and it didn't take me long at all to pull the trigger once I did.
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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2013, 08:10:37 PM »
Great score........Looks great with the Boomerang comstars.... Last model CB1100R had the gold ones  as well
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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2013, 08:12:29 PM »
So the boomers were on the Canadian model 1100F?

I love mine. Have a thread on my build somewhere in here.  It doesn't take long to pull the trigger huh? I have found some clean ones out East but shipping kills it. Guess it's just time to go out there and get one.

Very nice. I love the whole model span. Riding them is even better.

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2013, 08:13:48 PM »
Freakin' LOVE CBX's...SUBSCRIBED ;D

Surprised you don't have one.  ;)

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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2013, 08:17:27 PM »
So the boomers were on the Canadian model 1100F?


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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2013, 06:32:09 AM »
Subscibed. Several great forums to join.
I'm already on cbxclub.com - are there others you'd recommend?
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2013, 06:59:50 AM »
Great site there. CBX World is good also. Glad to answer any questions you may have as I have learned a lot building on one. Still learning everyday. Great motorcycle.

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Re: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2013, 04:14:40 PM »

A few more shots of Perry, my 1979 CBX which I picked up today.  It's at my mechanic's, to be fitted with new tires, muffler, and vintage Fox twin-clickers.



Those gold wheels look so good to me, I know that when it's time to replace them, whatever else goes on will have to be gold, too.


Wall-o-motor and Gary Wolf 6-2-1 header.  Clears the oil filter and retains the c-stand.


I found a shop that will spray that badge gold, think I'm gonna go for it.  You can also see from this shot that the paint is really good.  It's not 100% mirror smooth as you can see by the reflections, but it sure is nice.


WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!


And about the name Perry...

After we went to check out the bike in person, my wife remarked "That huge square motor is nuts - it looks like 2 wheels bolted to a fridge." And that brought to mind William "The Refrigerator" Perry, aka "Fridge". Hence the name Perry. :)
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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2013, 04:22:52 PM »
Looks sharp 8)

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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2013, 04:25:16 PM »
Very nice... ;)
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2013, 01:24:18 AM »


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Re: New CBX pics: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2013, 08:27:33 PM »
Time for an overdue update:


The week before last, I cleaned the bike up and rode around looking for some interesting places to take some glamor shots:




I think I've officially decided that I'm not gonna replace these wheels.  After seeing them so bright and shiny in the sun a few times, I've become very fond of them.  They look really right on the bike and the RoadRider tires work just fine for how I ride on the street.






I wish I had thought to flip up the sidestand and had lined everything up better so the bike doesn't appear to be missing the left rear turn signal...


Then last week I (finally) had a mount for my GPS fabbed up and I hit the road with my cousin for a little Toronto-Montreal trip via the beautiful backroads around Peterborough-Calabogie/Ottawa.  One day to get there, an excessive & exuberant night out, and then a semi-cold and very wet ride home just pounding out miles on the superslab (first time in hours of rain far from home since I picked up the bike).



Here we are in Montreal, Team Honda enjoying our last few moments of not being soaking wet. :)  Each of these bikes, when new, represented the pinnacle of Honda's engineering.  My cousin has had that 1999 VFR800 for just over 11 years now, and he swears he's never going to let it go.  He seems to love it more every year, and to be honest I think I do too.  That's the last generation before the ugly undertail exhaust and (IMO) inappropriate V-TEC, and the new 1200 seems to be a replacement for the ST1300 rather than a successor to the mighty Interceptor.  I have a hard time right now imagining Honda ever making a bike as awesome as the 5th gen VFR800 again, but I really hope I'm wrong.


Things I learned from this trip:
1. The suspension as currently set up is a bit better than I thought/feared it would be, but it is still absolutely awful.  I plan to have it all replaced over the winter, so on one hand I don't want to spend anything on fixing/tuning the current config, but on the other hand the combination of harshness (front and rear) and bottoming out (rear) makes it dangerous unless ridden with great care and foresight.

2. The ergos are a bit too punishing - my knees suck and I think I'm going to have to lower the pegs an inch or so.  I hate to lose the cornering clearance but if I'm honest with myself, I can accept that I was never gonna use that last inch on the street anyhow.  Also, I'll gain some back when I get the suspension sorted and have consistently better sag #'s.

3. Despite being more than 100 pounds heavier than I think a bike should be, it is really fun to ride.  I'll never be one of those people who say "once it's moving the weight disappears" - I suspect that those people have never ridden something like a Ducati Monster or a KTM Duke.  When I go back and forth between the CBX and my wife's Monster it's like a whole different world. When she still had her CBR125R, it was like a different dimension. :)  Still, it's gratifying and fun to try to hustle it around a bit, and it's pretty decent on the highway.

4. I can not park this thing in any lot anywhere without someone coming up to me and saying how nice it is, how they always wanted one, how their brother in law had one, how they had a CB750 back in the day, asking me if carb work is expensive, etc. etc. etc.  It is without fail a dude in his 40's-60's with a bit of a gut.  I have no expectations of it ever being a cutie-pie in her 20's, but my god that would be a refreshing change!  I have to admit, though, that it's gratifying to roll into the Ducati dealership and have guys with $25k bikes snapping pics of my old beast.

5. My carbs still need some work in order to be dialed in.  They are good but not great, and I would like it if they'd be great.  My main concern is part-throttle driveability under 4k, but I sure wouldn't mind an improvement in mileage, too.  This bike goes through a lot of gas, requires a stop every 200km, and the expensive ethanol-free gas means that this is the first bike I've had where my gasoline spending on a trip exceeds my beer spending!

6. The more I look at it, the more I like it.  I also like the feeling of being connected to something really iconic and historical.  It is gratifying to go out riding on something that people respond to so much and that I personally like so much.  Once all of the wrinkles are ironed out, it's gonna be a very special machine.
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Re: New CBX pics: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2013, 10:15:20 PM »
Great post dude.

They certainly are fun. Wish mine was here in Oz instead of in pieces being rebuilt.

For those that have a CBX.......and for those that lust after a cafe CBX ....

Google spondon CBX......

See it's a three step process.

1 lust after a CBX
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Re: New CBX pics: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2013, 10:26:38 PM »
Wow, now I see what you've been talking about. That is an absolute SCORE!
I love the gold wheels and black theme. Perfect in so many ways.
I'm soooooo jealous.

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Re: New CBX pics: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2013, 10:28:52 PM »
Great post dude.

They certainly are fun. Wish mine was here in Oz instead of in pieces being rebuilt.

For those that have a CBX.......and for those that lust after a cafe CBX ....

Google spondon CBX......

See it's a three step process.

1 lust after a CBX
2 get a CBX
3 lust after a spondon framed CBX

Lol

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Re: New CBX pics: Back into the vintage Honda game...
« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2013, 06:16:14 AM »
The  wheels got my attention, gold wheels and black paint,  gotta love that!   If Race Tech has emulaters for the CBX,  that will improve the front end.  It has on several bikes for me.  Could you have the old shocks rebuilt?
Great looking ride.  Glad you got her!
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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2013, 07:40:43 AM »
A couple of things you can try.

On the front pick up some Progressive fork springs. Run 7 WT oil. Wonderful.

You can purchase rear shocks from Tims. Even new they were not the best setup.

http://www.timscbx.com

When you adjust the valves set them all at 005. No more, no less. Also wonderful. You will need a shim removal tool and a worksheet. No beer.

I went to a taller sprocket on the rear. Drops RPM down about 400 RPM. Might save you some fuel but as far as I'm concerned, who cares.  :D I have gotten 34 MPG on the highway.

Yes, rode up to the local HD dealership with a couple of HD riding buddies. Out the back door comes a Service Tech waving his arms and beside himself. Ya, you have to sneak away just to use the bathroom.  ;D

Does that have the Sport Kit bars on it? The pegs appear stock. I have stock springs within spec but quite honestly change them.

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