Topic: kick start only

[metalhead0283]

76 cb 550f...what do i gotta do 2 make it kick start only

[flybox1]

Don't press or disable the electric start button

[metalhead0283]

lol 2 late for that...it was broke when i got the bike

[metalhead0283]

if it involves much more then putting a capacitor in place of the battery ill do it..otherwise ill get 1 of those tiny batteries that i can hide

[Xnavylfr]

I've read discussions on going without a battery on the CB and most found to be against it, not saying it CAN'T be done. The CB uses very little battery to start with the kicker BUT you have to have enough to juice to power the coils and points. I have found (many times) the bike not to have enough power to spin the starter but push it 10' pop the clutch and it starts. I have a KICK only CB750 chopper and the battery is smaller than stock. The one thing to remember, you have to have MORE power going in to the battery/ and on reserve than what you are drawing off the battery while running.

Xnavylfr(CHUCK)

[ladyrocket]

Can someone explain to me why I can't just run my bike off the stator like I can run my car off the alternator? Like on my car I can jump start it, and while its running, disconnect the battery and it'll still keep running. Is there a differenc between stator/alternator, I don't know about? Please educate a noob

[Geeto67]

um....what's your definition of very little battery? just because the battery doesn't have enough of a charge to power the starter doesn't mean it is nearly dead, these starters draw a lot and it doesn't take much for you not to have enough juice to swing it over.

metalhead - are your trying to run kick only? or run batteryless? because they are two different things. running kick only means removing the starter and all the rest of stuff related to it and plugging up the holes left by its removal. Running battery-less means you run without a battery. You can make your cb kick only, but you cannot run your cb batteryless without converting to a magneto or some other form of charging system. So yes it is more than just putting a capacator in place of the battery.

[Geeto67]

Can someone explain to me why I can't just run my bike off the stator like I can run my car off the alternator? Like on my car I can jump start it, and while its running, disconnect the battery and it'll still keep running. Is there a differenc between stator/alternator, I don't know about? Please educate a noob

three reasons - 1) hondas don't have break even charging until north of 2000 rpm, unlike your car which has break even charging at idle. 2) because the stator needs a charging source to polarize the magnets, 3) because in your car the ignition system and charging system are seperate systems, but they are not on a cb honda, thus a break in the system caused by either removing the battery or the main fuse will interrupt the whole shebang. 

[crazypj]

Can someone explain to me why I can't just run my bike off the stator like I can run my car off the alternator? Like on my car I can jump start it, and while its running, disconnect the battery and it'll still keep running. Is there a differenc between stator/alternator, I don't know about? Please educate a noob

 That's a VERY BAD IDEA, unless you like replacing alternators/diode packs
Basically, your a #$%*ing retard , monkey see, monkey do 

[ladyrocket]

Can someone explain to me why I can't just run my bike off the stator like I can run my car off the alternator? Like on my car I can jump start it, and while its running, disconnect the battery and it'll still keep running. Is there a differenc between stator/alternator, I don't know about? Please educate a noob

three reasons - 1) hondas don't have break even charging until north of 2000 rpm, unlike your car which has break even charging at idle. 2) because the stator needs a charging source to polarize the magnets, 3) because in your car the ignition system and charging system are seperate systems, but they are not on a cb honda, thus a break in the system caused by either removing the battery or the main fuse will interrupt the whole shebang.

Ok thanks!

[metalhead0283]

im just gonna run it kick only with 1 of those small batteries hidden away i decided....im rewiring the bike so anything not needed im gonna cut out

[Geeto67]

im just gonna run it kick only with 1 of those small batteries hidden away i decided....im rewiring the bike so anything not needed im gonna cut out

you should probably read up on the elements in your bike's charging system so you understand what is "not needed".

[phil71]

the reason you can't go without a battery is because this bike uses a rotor that is a spinning electromagnet. There are many honda twins that did, in fact, have a rotor that is a spinning permanent magnet, and those bikes will generate current with no battery. But even those are not enough to easily make spark at kick start speeds. A capacitor would be necessary in that situation.
   I'm sure there are people who have retrofit permanent magnet rotors to the SOHC4. If this is something you really want to do, it's not impossible, but possibly just above your pay grade , so-to-speak

[metalhead0283]

lol yeah i know lil bout what your saying an yeah where im trying 2 keep cost down best i can so i gotta go with 1 of those tiny batteries...i wanted to do it to an xs650 i had an it was right round $300 to do it n im not spending that sorda money in 1 shot..well not this year anyways...plenty of diagrams round for me to figure everything out..just lil patience n im set..dont need to rush it cuz i do got another bike i can ride anyways

[Duke McDukiedook]

If you want to be cheap on a 550 then just buy a cheap battery and kick it.
Batteryless on a 550 will cost more money than you want to spend to do properly, to put it as simple as possible.