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Offline cbstevef

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1977 cb750f cafe build
« on: January 29, 2013, 01:17:42 PM »
Hey guys, Ive had my cb750f for about a year now and loving it besides some of the issues that have arisen over the last 6 months. Below I have some pictures of some of the work I have done so far including the tail section and getting rid of some unnecessary parts. Other than progress on the build I thought I would pick your brains and give you guys some history on the issues with the bike and hopefully you guys can enlighten me on some of the issues I may be having.

Issue #1. I was doing valve clearances and somehow I did not tighten one of them properly and it came off during a ride. I heard a ticking noise all of a sudden when I took off from a corner. So I tried to fish it out but tilting the valve cover and fettling with a magnet, but no dice. So i had to remove the engine as you can see below. Bad news is that when I tilted the valve cover initially the stray nut fell into one of the spark plug holes. ( the spark plug was in thankfully but once I pulled the motor I noticed it just sitting there. Needless to say I was a little pissed lol.  >:( However I re-tighted the valve nut, re-set the clearances and dropped the engine back in the bike.

Issue 2) after re-installing the motor it wouldn't turn over. figured something was binding because you couldn't kick it over and the battery was dead in about 5 turnovers and it seemed bogged down. Eventually it loosened up but ever since it has had a pretty loud knocking noise. Took it to a mechanic and he said not to worry about it and sometimes these old bikes do that. I am thinking that I left a paper towel in possibly the exhaust port or the intake side of the engine.  :-[ stupid me. Either way that issue I believe went away other than the knocking noise.

Issue 3) The bike requires be to have choke on, And turn the throttle to get it to spark up. I will turn the bike over and give it a couple twists of the throttle. Twisting the throttle actually makes it worse but it delays a second after I twist the throttle and then it spits a little. Eventually it sparks up and runs but I have to constantly be on the thottle a little to prevent the idle from dropping off until it dies. Same thing happens when riding. At a stop light I have to keep a tiny bit on the throttle. Once it is warmed up however I know longer need to use the throttle to start it up. I kind of just ignored this issue and just constantly fittled with the throttle until this other issue (#4) popped up. The bike starting popping fuses. And the signals stopped working on the right side of the bike> every time i get close to finding it it just starts working again. Then before winter every time I drove my bike somewhere it was fine other than the start up and idle issues I mentioned before. But when I went to go home it would start to cut in and out when on steady throttle. If I sped up and raised the RPMs however is stopped but as soon as I slowed down again it started cutting in and out. Eventually until I had to slow down completely due to loss of power and the bike would just shut off. Every time however I was able to limp it home eventually and sometimes it would just spark up and not even do it for the rest of the way. I am very frustrated with this issue and my knowledge of motorcycles is limited compared to many of yours. Any incite is greatly appreciated as I would love my bike to be able to run for spring time. Thanks everyone I appreciate everything immensely.

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Re: 1977 cb750f cafe build
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2013, 01:41:31 PM »
my pictures take forever to post. Any tips?

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Re: 1977 cb750f cafe build
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2013, 01:50:21 PM »
Which photo hosting website are you using?

I would be pretty worried about any knocking noise. Knocking can be bad bearings. If it is a bad bearing then the engine won't be long for this world before it's totally seized up.

Your hard starting and poor idling when cold sounds like plugged idle jets/ generally gummed up/dirty carbs. The pilot jet orifices are really small and can easily become clogged up. When this happens the bike will require a lot of choke to start since it won't be getting enough fuel on its own and will require you to raise the idle since it will want to choke off when idling.

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Re: 1977 cb750f cafe build
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2013, 02:29:59 PM »
I wasn't using a photo hosting website only the attachment option at the bottom of the posting "attachments and other options". And my mechanic said bikes will make the noise mine is making forever and it doesn't do anything so i have no idea. I am definitely going to spit apart the carbs and get them cleaned up

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Re: 1977 cb750f cafe build
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2013, 07:36:09 PM »
That thing is GORGEOUS! Don't know what you had planned for paint, but you should leave the paint the way it is!

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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2013, 06:16:52 AM »
Planning in keeping the same paint scheme but as you can see on the last photo the seat paint doesn't match the tank! I am working on getting a patching paint now but I am having trouble! Any tips?

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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2013, 11:55:33 AM »
 I have a sweet deal on a 1977 cb750k motor minus the clutch. Does anyone know if the 1977 cb750k motor will work with the clutch from my cb750f and mount up in the frame properly? thanks a bunch!

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Re: 1977 cb750f cafe build
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2013, 12:18:07 AM »
looking good i like the seat alot

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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2013, 04:57:04 PM »
Thanks for the comment! its coming along thats for sure but money is tight at the moment so progress is slow until school takes a breather.

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Re: 1977 cb750f cafe build
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2013, 06:32:51 AM »
Since I about to start a cafe build on my '77 CB750K, I will be definitely be following the build.

Looking good, can't wait for future updates.

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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2013, 12:12:39 PM »
Sent the tail section for some paint to match the tank. Still working on a set machined aluminum headlight ears but time has been hard to come buy with school. Could probably have them done in a few hours once my brother is available and I can get into the school machine shop.

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Re: 1977 cb750f cafe build
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2013, 02:31:54 PM »
Got the seat painted by a local auto body shop and paint matched my a auto paint store down the road. Turned out pretty good as you can see in the photos .

Me and my brother also worked on the seat pan and upholstery and its our first attempt so we will see how it turns out! any questions dont be afraid to ask.

Note to self, doing fab work on the seat pan in an unheated garage during winter is hard on the hands. Maybe next time I will wait for summer.  :P

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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2013, 05:19:43 PM »
Where did you find those old Phantom's? Those are as old as stone.
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2013, 03:32:09 PM »
Im not sure I know what you are referring to? lol  :-[

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Re: 1977 cb750f cafe build
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2013, 09:01:47 AM »
We finished the seat up on Friday and its looking pretty good for a first time sewer and for a first attempt at upholstery. As you can see by the seat and the pictures I posted earlier this will sit on the tail cafe section I had made and will hopefully be a comfortable seat!




Im starting to get pretty pumped as my bike is really coming together. Next on the list is signals, gauges, finishing up the headlight ears and clip-on bars!

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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2013, 08:31:26 PM »
Very nice job on the seat.
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Re: 1977 cb750f cafe build
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2013, 09:58:00 PM »
I have a sweet deal on a 1977 cb750k motor minus the clutch. Does anyone know if the 1977 cb750k motor will work with the clutch from my cb750f and mount up in the frame properly? thanks a bunch!

Same clutch in those K & F's. 77 & 78's had the clutch upgrade to eliminate the clutch rattle that was prevalent up through 76.
As of today 3/13/2012 my original owner 75 CB750F has made it through 3 wives, er EX-wives. Free at last.  ;-)

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Re: 1977 cb750f cafe build
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2013, 10:03:30 AM »
Thanks for the info! I think I might go for the motor just in case mine blows on me! And thanks for the comment on the seat!

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Re: 1977 cb750f cafe build
« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2013, 10:12:59 AM »
Here is some photos of the seat on the tail section! Love the way it looks on the bike! The seat itself is secured to the tail by a think section of Velcro that you can see in the one of the photos!