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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #100 on: February 19, 2013, 05:29:43 PM »
I am using a VFR800 flywheel and winding in my 550 cases.  Picked up a later alternator cover with the exposed bolt holes and had a spacer made up to go inside the cover to hold the windings and a tapered sleeve on the crank for the flywheel.  Was pretty straight forward.
              I'm just going to make a 32amp. setup for the 500/550

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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #101 on: February 21, 2013, 03:39:30 PM »
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #102 on: February 22, 2013, 06:33:08 AM »
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I've wanted a better system since the day I bought this thing.

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I had previously mocked up a external alternator setup, but i chickened out before I tried it  :-[

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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2013, 12:29:58 PM »
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #104 on: March 28, 2013, 04:15:03 PM »
Any more progress on this?
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #105 on: March 28, 2013, 07:24:07 PM »
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #106 on: March 29, 2013, 05:00:39 AM »
Anders dropped off most of the kit for me a few weeks back. when it warms up I start fitting it. It looks simple, rugged and way better than the existing set up. Using this system and running relays for the ignition and headlight will make a big difference.
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #107 on: March 29, 2013, 06:17:44 AM »
Anders dropped off most of the kit for me a few weeks back. when it warms up I start fitting it. It looks simple, rugged and way better than the existing set up. Using this system and running relays for the ignition and headlight will make a big difference.

Ah the Sage has engaged. All will be well.

Mike, you going to write up a little tutorial on those relays etc. If not, I see the landscape littered with smoking CBs.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #108 on: March 29, 2013, 06:26:52 AM »
Anders dropped off most of the kit for me a few weeks back. when it warms up I start fitting it. It looks simple, rugged and way better than the existing set up. Using this system and running relays for the ignition and headlight will make a big difference.

Ah the Sage has engaged. All will be well.

Mike, you going to write up a little tutorial on those relays etc. If not, I see the landscape littered with smoking CBs.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Relays for the headlight are well covered. I have one of Hondaman's dual relay units which fits nicely in the hlight shell. EasternBeaver and others have them also, or DIY diagrams abound.

Don't know about the ignition.

They enhance any system, but I don't think they would be ncessary just because the alt puts out more. Isn't it regulated by the regulator?

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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #109 on: March 29, 2013, 09:02:42 AM »
Anders dropped off most of the kit for me a few weeks back. when it warms up I start fitting it. It looks simple, rugged and way better than the existing set up. Using this system and running relays for the ignition and headlight will make a big difference.

Ah the Sage has engaged. All will be well.

Mike, you going to write up a little tutorial on those relays etc. If not, I see the landscape littered with smoking CBs.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Bobby....as MC said the headlight relay has been covered (at least in his build thread). I could post some pics of my set up but I have a link that pretty well explains it. It does work well.
 The reason I say all those upgrades will work better with the higher powered alt is they are directly battery driven....a well charged battery will always work better. This new system will insure that. It is actually a much simpler system as the field coil is eliminated....less connections to corrode etc. System just has the 3 yellow stator wires (heavier gauge too) and a positive/ground. Nice reg/rec too.
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #110 on: March 29, 2013, 09:09:16 AM »
CB750 mods = natures way of saying "make more money".   :D
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #111 on: March 29, 2013, 11:53:31 AM »
Anders dropped off most of the kit for me a few weeks back. when it warms up I start fitting it. It looks simple, rugged and way better than the existing set up. Using this system and running relays for the ignition and headlight will make a big difference.

Ah the Sage has engaged. All will be well.

Mike, you going to write up a little tutorial on those relays etc. If not, I see the landscape littered with smoking CBs.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Bobby....as MC said the headlight relay has been covered (at least in his build thread). I could post some pics of my set up but I have a link that pretty well explains it. It does work well.
 The reason I say all those upgrades will work better with the higher powered alt is they are directly battery driven....a well charged battery will always work better. This new system will insure that. It is actually a much simpler system as the field coil is eliminated....less connections to corrode etc. System just has the 3 yellow stator wires (heavier gauge too) and a positive/ground. Nice reg/rec too.
Yes Mike all that you say is true. I was contemplating having a rewind done to get more from the alternator. This would eliminate that and have a have a tested result.
The reason for my comment about a write up resulted from a lot of new people coming here with no experience. I am seeing a lot of first timers who never worked on anything from their statements.


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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #112 on: April 03, 2013, 11:15:07 PM »
Very interested in this setup. Great to see some fresh ideas for our old bikes!  I really like my heated vest and would like to use it on my cb without worrying about a dead battery.

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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #113 on: May 10, 2013, 05:48:31 PM »
 I finally got around to install the alternator kit on My K7 for testing. I did take some photos



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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #114 on: May 10, 2013, 05:53:08 PM »
Nice work!! What was the electrical load while idling? Headlight/ taillight on?
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #115 on: May 10, 2013, 06:07:13 PM »
Nice work!! What was the electrical load while idling? Headlight/ taillight on?


                  Yes it was idling headlights taillight brake light and turn signal were on.

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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #116 on: May 10, 2013, 06:22:45 PM »
Great work Anders I can't wait to get mine!!
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #117 on: May 10, 2013, 06:36:25 PM »
Fantastic stuff. Your skills never cease to amaze! Like Treeve said above, I know a guy who can hook you up with a few motors for as long as you need them :D if Adam can't commit to that.

Looking forward to checking it out and seeing how it performs on the K7.
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #118 on: May 10, 2013, 07:11:01 PM »
Nice work!! What was the electrical load while idling? Headlight/ taillight on?


                  Yes it was idling headlights taillight brake light and turn signal were on.
Just for grins, you might try adding additional loads to see how much power it can produce at idle. 8)
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #119 on: May 10, 2013, 07:22:32 PM »
Nice work!! What was the electrical load while idling? Headlight/ taillight on?


                  Yes it was idling headlights taillight brake light and turn signal were on.
Just for grins, you might try adding additional loads to see how much power it can produce at idle. 8)

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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #120 on: May 10, 2013, 07:37:44 PM »
I was thinking more like extra light bulbs to see how many watts over a normal load it will produce, before the regulator is no longer shunting the excess to ground. I guess you could simply insert an ammeter into the shunt circuit and measure the excess directly?
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #121 on: May 10, 2013, 07:56:11 PM »
Hurry up with the kits Anders,  ;D ;) I want 3 of them. It looks like there is more than enough room to trim the stator cover down a bit, how big is the spacer you put in behind the stator..?
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #122 on: May 10, 2013, 08:24:43 PM »
Nice. I have been waiting for an update. Glad to see this idea lives on. I want two!

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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #123 on: May 10, 2013, 08:37:45 PM »
Nice setup, the adapter for the stator looks top notch! Im guessing the rotor / stator / regulator-rectifier is a donor part of a modern sport bike?  I would be happy to test but my bike is kinda not finished...

I hope kits become available, I too would be interested in a kit even if its just the taper adapter and the stator adapter. any idea what
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Re: Altenator Up Grade 32amps
« Reply #124 on: May 10, 2013, 09:05:23 PM »
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