Author Topic: New cam chain tensioner from CycleX (Read 8622 times)

MRieck · « **on:** March 02, 2013, 11:26:57 AM »

http://www.cyclexchange.net/Honda%20Page.htm

Different material than found in the KA Performance tensioner. Rated to 500F and very durable (read expensive).

Some more items coming down the pike too.

voxonda · « **Reply #1 on:** March 02, 2013, 11:33:46 AM »

Think I'll have one for the new engine.

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #2 on:** March 02, 2013, 11:42:09 AM »

Yes, they appear to be the next best thing in tensioners. Kenny, the man. He cut away an engine to study all the current configurations, I think you'll like it......Mr Honda not that far off!

More info as they become available.Also offers much better chain contact, not too many unsupported links! Way cool! We were just talking about them yesterday.Bill

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #3 on:** March 02, 2013, 02:06:25 PM »

Saw them yesterday on Kens site, very nice, price is good too....

MRieck · « **Reply #4 on:** March 02, 2013, 02:10:37 PM »

Quote from: Retro Rocket on March 02, 2013, 02:06:25 PM

Saw them yesterday on Kens site, very nice, price is good too....

Correct Mick. As Bill said....it wasn't until he cut the engine away that he saw what was really going on. It was like a moment of clarity for him. He has been talking to chain engineers...obviously. Other stuff coming down the pike.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #5 on:** March 02, 2013, 02:28:07 PM »

Quote from: MRieck on March 02, 2013, 02:10:37 PM

Quote from: Retro Rocket on March 02, 2013, 02:06:25 PM
Saw them yesterday on Kens site, very nice, price is good too....
Correct Mick. As Bill said....it wasn't until he cut the engine away that he saw what was really going on. It was like a moment of clarity for him. He has been talking to chain engineers...obviously. Other stuff coming down the pike.

Thanks Mike, Ken deserves congrats for doing this works for us mad SOHC heads.... Next time you talk to ken let him know how much we all appreciate the effort he puts in for us all...

MRieck · « **Reply #6 on:** March 02, 2013, 02:33:49 PM »

Quote from: Retro Rocket on March 02, 2013, 02:28:07 PM

Quote from: MRieck on March 02, 2013, 02:10:37 PM
Quote from: Retro Rocket on March 02, 2013, 02:06:25 PM
Saw them yesterday on Kens site, very nice, price is good too....
Correct Mick. As Bill said....it wasn't until he cut the engine away that he saw what was really going on. It was like a moment of clarity for him. He has been talking to chain engineers...obviously. Other stuff coming down the pike.

Thanks Mike, Ken deserves congrats for doing this works for us mad SOHC heads.... Next time you talk to ken let him know how much we all appreciate the effort he puts in for us all...

[/b] Boy...... Mick I speak with him just about every other day. I wish you could meet him as he is a great guy. I had a lot of fun with him (and Todd) at Valdosta last November. You were the only thing missing brother.

MRieck · « **Reply #7 on:** March 02, 2013, 02:39:42 PM »

Also....he is correct about the milled pieces. My current engine has -.045 off the head and -.020 off the deck. I could see that the chain gets close to the pivot pin. OK...now I have another engine in the future using all these new parts. $hit....it never stops (thank God).

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #8 on:** March 02, 2013, 02:43:28 PM »

I was also looking at his new rear wheel set up Mike, unfortunately for me it looks like he is only selling them with 17 inch rims, do you think Ken would sell just the hub with disc , carrier, caliper and sprocket...?

http://www.cyclexchange.net/Honda%20Page.htm

MRieck · « **Reply #9 on:** March 02, 2013, 03:01:18 PM »

Quote from: Retro Rocket on March 02, 2013, 02:43:28 PM

I was also looking at his new rear wheel set up Mike, unfortunately for me it looks like he is only selling them with 17 inch rims, do you think Ken would sell just the hub with disc , carrier, caliper and sprocket...?

http://www.cyclexchange.net/Honda%20Page.htm

I'll ask him Mick.

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #10 on:** March 02, 2013, 03:08:34 PM »

Quote from: MRieck on March 02, 2013, 03:01:18 PM

Quote from: Retro Rocket on March 02, 2013, 02:43:28 PM
I was also looking at his new rear wheel set up Mike, unfortunately for me it looks like he is only selling them with 17 inch rims, do you think Ken would sell just the hub with disc , carrier, caliper and sprocket...?

http://www.cyclexchange.net/Honda%20Page.htm
I'll ask him Mick.

Thank you sir...

brandEn · « **Reply #11 on:** March 02, 2013, 08:44:35 PM »

Damn I just bought a new Honda one last week from the dealer.

dakota · « **Reply #12 on:** March 03, 2013, 05:29:49 AM »

Quote from: brandEn on March 02, 2013, 08:44:35 PM

Damn I just bought a new Honda one last week from the dealer.

Me to...

bwaller · « **Reply #13 on:** March 03, 2013, 09:14:49 AM »

It's a smart alternative alright. Did they try this piece in his race engine? I wonder what the material looks like after some abuse.

turboguzzi · « **Reply #14 on:** March 03, 2013, 09:18:44 AM »

all is good guys, but coming from 500's and other motors, never having worked on a 750, I cant understand why nobody makes a proper slider tensioner like in any modern motor = no wheels revolving at crazy rpm's. i am pretty confident there must be something that can be cannibalized form other motors. my 500/4 uses one from a CBR600 for instance

MCRider · « **Reply #15 on:** March 03, 2013, 10:16:31 AM »

Quote from: turboguzzi on March 03, 2013, 09:18:44 AM

all is good guys, but coming from 500's and other motors, never having worked on a 750, I cant understand why nobody makes a proper slider tensioner like in any modern motor = no wheels revolving at crazy rpm's. i am pretty confident there must be something that can be cannibalized form other motors. my 500/4 uses one from a CBR600 for instance

KOS at M3Racing has the slider type for his racers and those of us with play racers motors. According to CycleX promo readings, there is some shortcoming, having to do with milling the decks, that makes their roller type superior. I am not qualified to judge. The KOS supplied slider type is a way cool part, anyway.

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #16 on:** March 03, 2013, 11:54:10 AM »

The "butcher block" sliders have been the best so far. I like what I see of Kenny's,got one on order.Bill

srbakker · « **Reply #17 on:** March 03, 2013, 11:57:13 AM »

I wonder if they'll put one in the engine they're building for me. Maybe I'll call on Monday and find out.

Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er · « **Reply #18 on:** March 03, 2013, 12:04:40 PM »

For $140 they will put one on

srbakker · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2013, 08:55:42 PM »

Hehe, probably. Although I told them I'd pay for the heavy duty Kibblewhite studs and they said they were using those anyway.

bert96 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 04, 2013, 02:48:50 PM »

This guy sell something very similar....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAM-CHAIN-TENSIONER-for-CB350-CL350-SL350-CB750-K0-K8-F0-F1-PA6G-polyamide-CNC-/251233875884?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7eb4b7ac

Bert

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #21 on:** March 04, 2013, 04:09:47 PM »

Yeah, i've seen them, i think they would also be better than stock....

dragracer · « **Reply #22 on:** March 04, 2013, 06:15:06 PM »

Timing couldn't have been better on this for me. I'm about to start putting my motor back up. I just bought a manual adjuster so this new CycleX tensioner would be perfect.

Old Scrambler · « **Reply #23 on:** March 04, 2013, 07:52:17 PM »

I'm usually a follower to the party.........but I got my 'new design' tensioner and HD-chain in November when I stopped at Ken's shop. I plan to install it this summer. Ken has also designed a novel way to flush the plumbing in the john..........its worth a visit

PeWe · « **Reply #24 on:** March 08, 2013, 12:57:03 AM »

Quote from: bert96 on March 04, 2013, 02:48:50 PM

This guy sell something very similar....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAM-CHAIN-TENSIONER-for-CB350-CL350-SL350-CB750-K0-K8-F0-F1-PA6G-polyamide-CNC-/251233875884?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7eb4b7ac

Bert

I read about this tensioner in another thread http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=106568.0 and could not resist to order, just a few clicks and price + shipping relatively low.
Have them home waiting to be installed together with new chain, sprocket, cam, heavy duty primary chains from Germany and all other new stuff draining my wallet :-)

turboguzzi · « **Reply #25 on:** March 08, 2013, 02:49:13 AM »

taken form here...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLLER-for-CB750-K1-K8-F0-F1-CAM-CHAIN-TENSIONER-PA6G-polyamide-ROLLER-CNC-/251055829266?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a7417f112

PROPERTIES OF POLIKES®:

100°C Service Temperature

an air cooled motor's service temp is considerably higher than 100 C...

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #26 on:** March 08, 2013, 04:19:19 AM »

TG, my thoughts exactly!! Kennys 250-300C @ LEAST! Costs of material high but worth it. Bill

simon#42 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:38:53 AM »

sorry to go against the flow but i dont think this type of tensioner is a good idea in a high performance engine , the weakness will always be the wheels regardless of what they are made of .

bwaller · « **Reply #28 on:** March 08, 2013, 10:44:16 AM »

Quote from: simon#42 on March 08, 2013, 10:38:53 AM

sorry to go against the flow but i dont think this type of tensioner is a good idea in a high performance engine , the weakness will always be the wheels regardless of what they are made of .

I tend to agree and why I asked if they used this set-up in their roadrace engine.

MRieck · « **Reply #29 on:** March 09, 2013, 12:08:50 PM »

In a perfect world I would like a set up like the 550 ....a long blade with a gentle arc and sizable contact area. Honda did it for the 750 when they were using the double cam head on the SOHC case. They also used a primary gear as opposed to chains (another thing I'd like in a perfect world).
The problem with the KA Performance piece is when you really mill and deck it moves the tensioner in an there is less contact area. Th chain also comes close to the retaining pin.
Everything is a compromise I guess.

simon#42 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 09, 2013, 04:11:14 PM »

yes alas everything is a compromise , but look on the bright side mike if these engines were perfect you would need to find a new hobby !

Bill/BentON Racing · « **Reply #31 on:** March 11, 2013, 06:20:47 PM »

No they didn't, but it was the rr engine and the slipper type tensioner that got Kenny looking for something better....like the mls headgasket! The dragracer will have one in it, Kenny believes in it, so do I. Wheels always the weak pt.....yes, if they wear out or distort cause of heat.100C going to distort or melt! Its the lower wheel that's the key along with material used.My .02. Bill

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