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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #600 on: June 28, 2014, 09:23:46 PM »
 For my sandcast I had my diecasts honda sidecovers painted, one was NOS candy blue green. It broke my heart to paint it red.  The shop missed the color the first time and there was a repair ring where he sanded through a layer of old paint. He repainted them and on the second go around they ended up original color rather than matching the fade of the tank.  I'll run them until I get original red sidecovers then put them on the diecast bike.  I didn't really want both of them red though.
 
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #601 on: July 03, 2014, 05:21:07 PM »
Cam is installed and timed...the chain was TIGHT!  Installed a new 45 tooth sprocket from Sunstar on the rear wheel's carrier, and put my badges on the side covers with new speed nuts.





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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #602 on: July 03, 2014, 09:23:21 PM »
Lookin good.
No matter how many times you paint over a shadow, it's still there.
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #603 on: July 03, 2014, 09:29:07 PM »
Thanks Don!

I also got to check out a '41 Harley a friend of my dad's shop brought over.

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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #604 on: July 04, 2014, 12:01:49 AM »
 When i was a kid my best friend's house shared a driveway with an old Harley shop, That's what I remember going in and out, with lots of reflectors and flaps hanging down too.
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #605 on: July 05, 2014, 03:28:12 PM »
Motor's done and in the frame.




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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #606 on: July 05, 2014, 03:30:55 PM »
Looking good Greggo... ;)
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #607 on: July 05, 2014, 05:27:10 PM »
Looking good Greggo... ;)

Thanks Retro!  That was a bear of a job getting that lump in there!

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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #608 on: July 06, 2014, 11:41:24 AM »
Great progress Greggo. Bet that's a relief. Now to make it a roller. 
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #609 on: July 06, 2014, 12:18:57 PM »
Great progress Greggo. Bet that's a relief. Now to make it a roller. 

You betcha!  I got the front wheel really close to true on that stand, but had trouble with the rear, so I'm going to take them to a guy who does it cheap, and sells new tires too.  I might be able to give it legs next week if I can get my sh1t together ;D

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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #610 on: July 06, 2014, 01:57:43 PM »
What tires are you going with?
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #611 on: July 06, 2014, 04:19:06 PM »
What tires are you going with?

Probably Bridgestones.  I'd get Avons, but the tread pattern is too 'new' looking.  What do you like on the 750s?

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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #612 on: July 06, 2014, 05:36:51 PM »
What tires are you going with?

Probably Bridgestones.  I'd get Avons, but the tread pattern is too 'new' looking.  What do you like on the 750s?

Avons are great, have them on my Z1, and have Bridgestone BT45's on my K4, good tire as well.  But both are too modern looking for a Sandy.  I believe your bike came with either Bridgestone or Dunlop, the Bridgestone model is no longer made.  Pretty sure the Dunlop was a Gold Seal, similar to the K87. These would be your best bet...

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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #613 on: July 11, 2014, 05:43:08 PM »
Little bits of progress...took a shot at spiffing up one of the oil lines by hitting the fitting on the wire wheel, then shot the braided line with some black paint.  I think it turned out nice!  I'll clean the other next week and get them installed with the oil tank.

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Exhaust spigots installed with new screws and crush gaskets:


Figured out that I just needed the end caps to get the swing arm spacing, so I got that back in the frame as well (I'm using the top hat bushings, and wasn't sure which pieces I needed, and how to get the spacing right)
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #614 on: July 13, 2014, 07:06:54 AM »
I think the duck tail seat is the best looking for any 750.  When will she be a roller? No luck on the rim.. They were all the same.
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #615 on: July 13, 2014, 10:32:58 AM »
No worries Tews.  The front rims weren't special like the rolled rear ones, and the one on this bike is pretty nice.  I think it might be the original, despite the K1 forks that came on the bike..

If I really get my act together, I'll probably end next week with a roller, but here's my list before that happens...oh, and I gave up on truing the wheels myself ::)

Have wheels trued (Found a guy who will do it for $35..said he does, or at least did Vic World's wheels)
Get Tires
Change bearings front and rear
Fill forks with fluid
Find (keyword there) and install rubber bits that go on with the fork ears


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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #616 on: July 13, 2014, 12:07:00 PM »
Trueing wheels can be a b!tch, I left my Z1 wheel to a pro when it needed lacing/trueing. 

Did you decide on tires?
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #617 on: July 13, 2014, 12:18:03 PM »
Trueing wheels can be a b!tch, I left my Z1 wheel to a pro when it needed lacing/trueing. 

Did you decide on tires?

Not yet.  I'm going to see if the guy who does the truing also sells tires, and maybe I'll just go with something in stock if I like 'em. 

I did some shopping this weekend..bought:

16 tooth front sprocket from CycleX
110 link EK roller chain (ebay seller)
Rubber air box boots from KenoshaKid (the german ebay seller)
NOS chrome fork ear rings (ebay seller)
NOS fork ear rubbers (ebay seller)
NOS tachometer cable (ebay seller)

Here's hoping it all (except the boots from germany) shows up before I see the bike again on Friday.
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #618 on: July 13, 2014, 12:59:27 PM »
Greggo, if you don't mind reproduction rubbers, check out http://www.claussstudios.com/. If he doesn't already make the fork eat rubbers he'll make you a set for free if you send him parts good enought to make a mold from.

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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #619 on: July 19, 2014, 05:14:29 PM »
Not rolling just yet...

Rims are trued - guy at 'Wheel Works' in Hayward California did them...no, not the Wheel Works chain, but an independent guy running a rim shop for the last few decades.  He was really cool, and had some very cool bikes in his shop, including a few Ducati desmo bikes, and a very complete little S90.  He spent about an hour doing both rims, and charged me $60...solid deal IMO.

Had time in the shop today, and got the rear wheel bearings changed out.  The rear hub retainer was a real #$%* to get out.  Also changed out the sprocket carrier bearing, and put the rear wheel back together with the clover shaped dampers.  Installed new rubber grommets on the oil tank, cleaned up another oil line and installed the tank and lines.  Also installed the clutch and stator covers with new gaskets.  It's starting to look like a 750 again!


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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #620 on: July 19, 2014, 05:18:03 PM »
Progress....
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #621 on: July 19, 2014, 05:20:50 PM »
Progress....

Am I going slow enough for you? ;D ;D

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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #622 on: July 19, 2014, 05:25:52 PM »
Progress....

Am I going slow enough for you? ;D ;D

Well, let's just say it's not hard to keep up!

I shouldn't say a thing, I've got two projects in the garage that are moving at a snails pace.  My excuse is I hate working when it's 90 degrees in the garage.
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #623 on: July 19, 2014, 09:10:04 PM »
Progress....

Am I going slow enough for you? ;D ;D

I've got that department covered Greg, your flying mate.... ;D ;)
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Re: Sandcast 4286 Project
« Reply #624 on: July 19, 2014, 10:16:07 PM »
Progress....

Am I going slow enough for you? ;D ;D

Well, let's just say it's not hard to keep up!

I shouldn't say a thing, I've got two projects in the garage that are moving at a snails pace.  My excuse is I hate working when it's 90 degrees in the garage.

My excuse is the distance (60 miles) between me and the shop.

Progress....

Am I going slow enough for you? ;D ;D

I've got that department covered Greg, your flying mate.... ;D ;)

I forgot about that monster you're building!  Have you got a build thread for that one yet?