Topic: FAKE 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550K ??? - yet another wheel thread!

[goldarrow]

I have this crazy idea of swapping 400f wheels onto 550k bike.  How much trouble will I be in if I were to do it, as far as handling/performance, brake, mounting issues, etc.?  I'm sure the swap will lower profiles on the 550. 

What are your thoughts?

Thanks guys

[MoMo]

All I visualize is a medium size bike with some skinny azz little tires, would look out of proportion and probably not handle too well...Larry

[goldarrow]

The wheels are mag wheels size 18 front and back.  Don't know about the width. 

[MoMo]

Measure between the flanges for rim width,   I thought you were referring to stock wheels, could work if wide enough...Larry

[Greggo]

The wheels are mag wheels size 18 front and back.  Don't know about the width. 

Not sure what you mean by 'mag wheels size' as most CB sets had a 19" front, like all those Lesters sets you have..

Besides, what'd you buy all those mags for if you want to use wire wheels?   All other things being stock, I think they would look too small.

[Bankerdanny]

The size should be on the wheels somewhere. It's pretty unusual for wheels to have no size marking on them anywhere.

Oh, and as with many questions, pictures make it much easier to supply answers.

[goldarrow]

No intention of using wire wheels mag wheels collection.  I used to collect lots of vintage clothes, then vintage sneakers, then vintage speakers. I have thin out most of those, now moving on to vintage bike mag wheels 

I don't have the wheels in hand yet but will try to get some pics from owner

[Greggo]

Aaaaaah, had to re-read that one Do you know the maker?

[goldarrow]

They look like Henry Abe, was told to be Henry Abe, but no markings?

[Greggo]

I would bet they are Henry Abe...they're nice!

[Stev-o]

Collected vintage sneakers? Glad you got into mags!

[goldarrow]

I would bet they are Henry Abe...they're nice!

They are sexy!  And I hope they are the real HA deal

Collected vintage sneakers? Glad you got into mags!

Those stinky old Converse One Star and Chuck Taylor's, just love them.  Still have few pairs of the 80's converse batman and joker also if you remember those

[goldarrow]

i was told the previous tires on the wheels are both 4.10x18 tires front and rear.  does this tire size about right for 550 bike?

anything i need to look for as far as mounting them? swingarm issues?

i also notice that the rear does not have cush drive rubber like those of 550 and 750, the hub is also smaller.  handling issues on the 550?

hmm....

[Stev-o]

I don't see how a stock frt fender would work with a tire that wide, stock was 3.25"

[goldarrow]

So the wheels are in





The width measures wayyyy too narrow for a 550 bike?

[Greggo]

Have you seen the 19" front that Blue71turbo has for sale in the classifieds here?

[goldarrow]

Thanks greggo.  Saw that just now.  Don't know what to do with one wheel

[goldarrow]

Anyone out there has any info on the 400f vs. 550k swingarm width for mounting wheels?  anyone?

on a side note, are these FAKE Henry Abe Wheels?  anyone?

[Scott S]

 They sure look like H.A.'s. What makes you think they're fake? Mine have "Japan HA Industry" cast into the front wheel and "Japan" and some numbers on the rear wheel.

 They must be for the 400F (or another bike) because of the width, rotor bolts, sprocket cover and a few other differences.

[scottly]

So the wheels are in





The width measures wayyyy too narrow for a 550 bike?

The width appears to be the same as the 2.15 Morris wheels on my 750. It also appears to have the raised bead for use with tubeless tires.

[goldarrow]

They sure look like H.A.'s. What makes you think they're fake? Mine have "Japan HA Industry" cast into the front wheel and "Japan" and some numbers on the rear wheel.

 They must be for the 400F (or another bike) because of the width, rotor bolts, sprocket cover and a few other differences.

there are no "Japan HA Industry" cast in the wheels.  only couple of random numbers and "JAPAN" casted to the wheels the wheels are off of 400F bike

[goldarrow]

So the wheels are in
The width measures wayyyy too narrow for a 550 bike?

The width appears to be the same as the 2.15 Morris wheels on my 750. It also appears to have the raised bead for use with tubeless tires.

great! at least they won't look too skinny on a 550

[scottly]

only couple of random numbers and "JAPAN" casted to the wheels the wheels are off of 400F bike

What are the numbers? Are they stamped or cast? My Morris wheels have numbers stamped that I think are related to the date they were made. Pics might help.

[goldarrow]

Here are the numbers

[scottly]

What about the cast "Japan"? How does it compare to the Japan cast into the Abe wheels?

[goldarrow]

Here are better close up pics

Front wheel stamped



Rear wheel stamped and cast

[Scott S]

 Mine have been powdercoated, but I'l try to get pics up soon. Those are definitely different.

[goldarrow]

Anyone in the know for sure what these wheels are? Cuz if they are knockoffs, then the price I paid did not reflect on what they are. 

Could they be early production? Prototype? Before HA stamp?

[KAO Built]

Those number that are stamped and the Japan look the same as my HA's.... I do see something that is slightly different than what I have on my 550 but then again these wheel are obviously different casts.

Is this the front or the rear?

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Here's my front. Notice where the spokes come to the edge of the rim and there is a radius that goes to the lips. My wheels do not have that...




I personally believe these are HA's. Here are the ones "Scott S" did and his are like yours verses mine.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=116960.0

-Keith

[KAO Built]

You have your photos set up so I can't hotlink 

The "Japan" on yours matches the "Japan" on my back wheel, obviously it's not the same as my front.

[goldarrow]

Hotlink? I had no idea joe to set or change that...

Thanks for pointing out the difference.  Very detail that I didn't see.  But I'm still puzzled as to why no brand marking. 

[KAO Built]

Hotlink? I had no idea joe to set or change that...

Thanks for pointing out the difference.  Very detail that I didn't see.  But I'm still puzzled as to why no brand marking.

Most likely your photobucket account is set to private. Anyway who knows, it could have been just that particular model that they didn't put the markings on. Maybe these were destined to be reject parts back in the day but got past QC checks lol. You may never know

[Kevin]

Just thought I would throw this picture out there.
This is my old 400F with Lester mag wheels.
They sure look a lot like your Henry Abe wheels....

[Scott S]

Just thought I would throw this picture out there.
This is my old 400F with Lester mag wheels.
They sure look a lot like your Henry Abe wheels....

 Those are Lesters? They sure look like HA's to me.

 Henry Abes on the left, Lesters on the right.

[Kevin]

Just thought I would throw this picture out there.
This is my old 400F with Lester mag wheels.
They sure look a lot like your Henry Abe wheels....

 Those are Lesters? They sure look like HA's to me.

 Henry Abes on the left, Lesters on the right.

Well.....you could be right. I allways thought they were Lester's because that's what the receipt from the Honda shop said they were.
Hey, here's a picture of my old 400F with Henry Abe's ! :-)

[david 750f]

No Henry Abe marking on my NOS CB750F Henry Abe rims. I have the original boxes, they should be the real deal. They may be early or later Henry Abe's.

Here are some pics.

[BLUE71TURBO]

 From what i know, Henry Abe wheels were made in different configurations for various manufactured motorcycles like Harley Davidson, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha etc...  There are some factory wheels that look like HA's also.

   Here is a Google search for Henry Abe mag wheels........

  https://www.google.com/search?q=henry+abe+mag+wheels&hl=en&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=tEBKUbOJA4bcyQHGtIGwDA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1432&bih=729#imgrc=_