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I have this crazy idea of swapping 400f wheels onto 550k bike.  How much trouble will I be in if I were to do it, as far as handling/performance, brake, mounting issues, etc.?  I'm sure the swap will lower profiles on the 550. 

What are your thoughts?

Thanks guys
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Re: 400F wheels on 550k - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2013, 11:37:48 am »
All I visualize is a medium size bike with some skinny azz little tires, would look out of proportion and probably not handle too well...Larry

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Re: 400F wheels on 550k - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2013, 12:01:27 pm »
The wheels are mag wheels size 18 front and back.  Don't know about the width. 
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Re: 400F wheels on 550k - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2013, 12:07:52 pm »
Measure between the flanges for rim width,   I thought you were referring to stock wheels, could work if wide enough...Larry

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Re: 400F wheels on 550k - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2013, 12:13:54 pm »
The wheels are mag wheels size 18 front and back.  Don't know about the width. 

Not sure what you mean by 'mag wheels size' as most CB sets had a 19" front, like all those Lesters sets you have..

Besides, what'd you buy all those mags for if you want to use wire wheels? ;D ;D ;D  All other things being stock, I think they would look too small.

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Re: 400F wheels on 550k - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2013, 12:16:32 pm »
The size should be on the wheels somewhere. It's pretty unusual for wheels to have no size marking on them anywhere.

Oh, and as with many questions, pictures make it much easier to supply answers.
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Re: 400F wheels on 550k - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2013, 12:19:39 pm »
No intention of using wire wheels :) :D mag wheels collection.  I used to collect lots of vintage clothes, then vintage sneakers, then vintage speakers. I have thin out most of those, now moving on to vintage bike mag wheels  8)

I don't have the wheels in hand yet but will try to get some pics from owner
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Re: 400F wheels on 550k - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2013, 12:22:51 pm »
Aaaaaah, had to re-read that one ;) Do you know the maker?

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Re: 400F wheels on 550k - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2013, 02:32:28 pm »
They look like Henry Abe, was told to be Henry Abe, but no markings?









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Re: 400F wheels on 550k - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2013, 07:05:58 pm »
I would bet they are Henry Abe...they're nice!

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Re: 400F wheels on 550k - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2013, 07:38:53 pm »
Collected vintage sneakers? Glad you got into mags!

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Re: 400F wheels on 550k - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2013, 09:49:28 pm »
I would bet they are Henry Abe...they're nice!

They are sexy!  And I hope they are the real HA deal

Collected vintage sneakers? Glad you got into mags!



Those stinky old Converse One Star and Chuck Taylor's, just love them.  Still have few pairs of the 80's converse batman and joker also if you remember those :)
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Re: 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550k ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2013, 03:04:38 pm »
i was told the previous tires on the wheels are both 4.10x18 tires front and rear.  does this tire size about right for 550 bike?

anything i need to look for as far as mounting them? swingarm issues?

i also notice that the rear does not have cush drive rubber like those of 550 and 750, the hub is also smaller.  handling issues on the 550?

hmm....???
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Re: 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550k ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2013, 04:36:22 pm »
I don't see how a stock frt fender would work with a tire that wide, stock was 3.25"
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Re: 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550k ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2013, 03:13:07 pm »
So the wheels are in





The width measures wayyyy too narrow for a 550 bike?
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Re: 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550k ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2013, 05:03:08 pm »
Have you seen the 19" front that Blue71turbo has for sale in the classifieds here?

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Re: 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550k ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2013, 07:46:24 pm »
Thanks greggo.  Saw that just now.  Don't know what to do with one wheel
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Re: FAKE 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550K ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2013, 03:29:31 pm »
Anyone out there has any info on the 400f vs. 550k swingarm width for mounting wheels?  anyone?

on a side note, are these FAKE Henry Abe Wheels?  anyone?
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Re: FAKE 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550K ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2013, 05:13:47 pm »
 They sure look like H.A.'s. What makes you think they're fake? Mine have "Japan HA Industry" cast into the front wheel and "Japan" and some numbers on the rear wheel.

 They must be for the 400F (or another bike) because of the width, rotor bolts, sprocket cover and a few other differences.
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Re: 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550k ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2013, 07:26:20 pm »
So the wheels are in





The width measures wayyyy too narrow for a 550 bike?
The width appears to be the same as the 2.15 Morris wheels on my 750. It also appears to have the raised bead for use with tubeless tires. ;)
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Re: FAKE 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550K ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2013, 09:13:46 pm »
They sure look like H.A.'s. What makes you think they're fake? Mine have "Japan HA Industry" cast into the front wheel and "Japan" and some numbers on the rear wheel.

 They must be for the 400F (or another bike) because of the width, rotor bolts, sprocket cover and a few other differences.

there are no "Japan HA Industry" cast in the wheels.  only couple of random numbers and "JAPAN" casted to the wheels ??? the wheels are off of 400F bike
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Re: 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550k ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2013, 09:15:47 pm »
So the wheels are in
The width measures wayyyy too narrow for a 550 bike?
The width appears to be the same as the 2.15 Morris wheels on my 750. It also appears to have the raised bead for use with tubeless tires. ;)

great! at least they won't look too skinny on a 550 :)
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Re: FAKE 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550K ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2013, 09:37:18 pm »
only couple of random numbers and "JAPAN" casted to the wheels ??? the wheels are off of 400F bike
What are the numbers? Are they stamped or cast? My Morris wheels have numbers stamped that I think are related to the date they were made. Pics might help.
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Re: FAKE 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550K ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2013, 09:45:38 pm »
Here are the numbers
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Re: FAKE 400F Henry Abe wheels on 550K ??? - yet another wheel thread!
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2013, 09:59:22 pm »
What about the cast "Japan"? How does it compare to the Japan cast into the Abe wheels?
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