OK I think I figured it out... pretty dumb really. The ground that comes from the regulator and blinkers was dangling free unconnected to anything!!!!
as in the circular connector that is meant to be on the frame I assume, not anything direct from the reg/rec
where does it connect to the frame? same place and battery negative ground?
also for your entertainment I screwed up some instructions to bypass my regulator and literally blew it up, it spewed smoke and spat molten sliver stuff!!! ah!!! what a doofus.