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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #100 on: March 22, 2013, 06:02:24 PM »
It's a joke guys!  ;D

Black is the only way to go.

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Thank fcuk for that, if you had gone with the red seat you would have to have called it your "menstrual cycle"... :o   sorry all....


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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #101 on: March 22, 2013, 06:26:17 PM »
Good one, Mick!
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #102 on: March 23, 2013, 09:09:30 AM »
Now the dirty work begins. And I mean dirty!

First was to clean the petcock and get the fuel lever to slide. Have to be careful. There is one on flea bay for $250.00.  :o



On to the chain guard. Boy, this was never cleaned in 48 years as far as I can tell.





And after two hours or so..with a few breaks..



This morning I removed the shocks, polished them up a bit, used some Purple Magic on the fender mounts being careful not to polish them. Also started my way forward to the engine.

Before..





After..





Next is the center stand and kickstand. I want to keep things as close to the current condition but might paint these parts. Will see how they clean up first.

To be continued..

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #103 on: March 23, 2013, 09:27:47 AM »
Very nice work 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) Not over-done :) :) :) :)

The shocks can be rebuilt with fresh oil.  Otherwise they will feel like po-go-sticks :D :D :D  T  Be careful not to crack or rub-through the paint on the plastic covers.  They can be torn-down and reassembled by hand with help from a careful friend.

One thing to be prepared for is that most or all of the old oil seals will tend to leak when you get down the road a few miles. New seals are available.  Although its good practice to oil the chain, its get passive oil from a hole in the transmission case whenever there is excessive pressure or you lean the bike to the right.
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #104 on: March 23, 2013, 09:40:59 AM »
Very nice work 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) Not over-done :) :) :) :)

The shocks can be rebuilt with fresh oil.  Otherwise they will feel like po-go-sticks :D :D :D  T  Be careful not to crack or rub-through the paint on the plastic covers.  They can be torn-down and reassembled by hand with help from a careful friend.

One thing to be prepared for is that most or all of the old oil seals will tend to leak when you get down the road a few miles. New seals are available.  Although its good practice to oil the chain, its get passive oil from a hole in the transmission case whenever there is excessive pressure or you lean the bike to the right.

Really? That would probably explain the mess on the right lower case cover. Inside the chain guard it was 1/2 thick of build up. It was a mess.

Once I get caught up with all this cleaning I was told to remove the left side and sand/oil the clutch plates. On the right side (dry side) I need to clean in there and check the front sprocket.

The major problem is removing the screws. Several will need drilled out due to rounding. (use JIS screwdrivers please!) It's going to be a PIA!  :o I have all OEM screws for both covers on order.

Thank you for that info. Much appreciated.

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #105 on: March 23, 2013, 09:42:35 AM »
Nice job detailing and cleaning things up. Your petcock lever freed up OK? It is still assembled with the lever. Been so long since I messed with the petcock on my CA95...
The chain guards are working and chain oiler is doing its job. The chainguards do a nice job of keeping things clean outside the case, with modern chains and lubes they require less maintenance than they originally.  You know the trick of cutting the side out of a container of oil and with the container on its side you put the chain in and refill to soaking the chain in the oil?

The paint is in surprisingly good shape. A good coat of wax will protect and scratches from rusting, not that it is much of a problem in AZ.

Any rust on the inside of the fenders?
Sohron used Boeshield and Rustoleum Clear Rust Preventer spray on his fenders and similar areas...

Looking good!
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #106 on: March 23, 2013, 10:14:46 AM »
Petcock lever freed up nicely. Just a little soak then some heat.

The fenders have no rust. There is hardly any rust on the bike. I might clean the inside of the fenders tomorrow. Going to take a break today.  ;)

Margaritas later so be forwarned!  :P

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #107 on: March 23, 2013, 11:28:25 AM »
The seal was probably leaking.........that is usually the first one to go because of internal pressure.  The clutch plates are usually good after a mild cleaning and scrubbing with brush or sandpaper. Do not try to remove the inner-most plates unless you want to experience the fun of re-assembling the wire cush-springs.  I try to keep the plates in order until final assembly.............then I shuffle the order to mate fresh surfaces.

In an earlier post you said the electric starter did not engage. Its a sprague-clutch set-up and the 3 little springs tend to fail after 40-years. If you can't locate original springs.........take the used ones to a hardware store and get a close replacement set.
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #108 on: March 23, 2013, 12:04:45 PM »
OS, I was using a test battery that was no where near full charge. Solenoid just clicked so I'm thinking low voltage. Was told they need a good 12 V to work.

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #109 on: March 23, 2013, 12:27:59 PM »
Seat cover ordered today with terelyene foam if needed.

And the color is?

BLACK!

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #110 on: March 23, 2013, 12:55:49 PM »
Chrome on the shocks is in very nice shape as is the aluminum fender braces, the bike has been indoors most of its life it is clear to see. Amazing to think the bike is 47 years old (48 in another 5 months) and is in this condition.

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #111 on: March 23, 2013, 01:05:18 PM »
Chrome on the shocks is in very nice shape as is the aluminum fender braces, the bike has been indoors most of its life it is clear to see. Amazing to think the bike is 47 years old (48 in another 5 months) and is in this condition.

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Yes it is! On the recommendation of this forum that is why we are going to just clean it, do some much need maintenance and keep it as original as I possibly can.  ;)

Some things you can't. Case in point. Those are scrambler bars on it now I believe. Stock are hard to find so I'm going to look for a black leather fork bag to strap on the cross brace.

Anybody have one sitting in a box or better yet stock handlebars? I'm always looking for handlebars!  ::)

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #112 on: March 24, 2013, 08:17:46 AM »
Looks like I will be cleaning for quite a while.

Left side is just about there..



Then off to the right..



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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #113 on: March 24, 2013, 12:56:12 PM »
Lots of time to clean those parts up, the caked on grease and dirt is a real pita.  Turpentine does a pretty good job on some of it if you can give it some time and a bit of gentle heat. Then a scrub brush. (Clorox makes a nice stiff tile brush for those areas that aren't painted...afraid it might give fine scratches to painted surfaces)

Reminder that the original Simple Green is very alkaline and the USAF banned it from the flight line after finding it was causing excess corrosion to aircraft structural components.

She's coming along.
You'll have 60 hours or more into clean up to get her looking nice, but keeping her that way won't be nearly as difficult moving forward. Lots of sweat equity being built/invested.
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #114 on: March 24, 2013, 01:09:46 PM »
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #115 on: March 24, 2013, 01:16:30 PM »
"I have a Dream..."


http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/3701158310.html

You can have that dream, flat black spray bomb went off, like the missing needle on the speedo
It's a rough parts bike at best
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #116 on: March 24, 2013, 01:24:06 PM »
"I have a Dream..."


http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/3701158310.html

That's interesting! Same handlebars. Hmmm.

Good parts especially if the mufflers and head pipes are good. Going to cost me way more than that for just those parts alone.

I have a wanted dream listed on CL but nothing yet.

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« Reply #117 on: March 24, 2013, 01:26:24 PM »
Reminder that the original Simple Green is very alkaline and the USAF banned it from the flight line after finding it was causing excess corrosion to aircraft structural components.

Works the best for me. I rinse with a lot of water. Use nylon brush only.

Long way to go yet. It's all good.

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #118 on: March 24, 2013, 02:33:56 PM »
"I have a Dream..."


http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/3701158310.html

You can have that dream, flat black spray bomb went off, like the missing needle on the speedo
It's a rough parts bike at best

It's more like a nightmare!
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #119 on: March 25, 2013, 05:24:01 PM »
"I Have A Dream"......take 2......



http://austin.craigslist.org/mcy/3693770198.html
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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #120 on: March 25, 2013, 05:27:46 PM »
Pretty clean. Wrong color.  ;)

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« Reply #121 on: March 27, 2013, 10:44:12 AM »
Three (3) days of cleaning and a little more to go.

Before..



After..





Center stand done and mounted with the rear wheel mock up..





The biggest issue are the side covers. I can not get the screws to budge.  :'( I have tried heat, impact driver and Lord knows what else. I think my only alternative is to drill them all out or cut the heads off running the covers. I don't have to take the right off but the left is the clutch side. I wanted to clean and oil the plates.

If "anybody" has any ideas please post them here. I'm stepping away for a bit to collect my thoughts.

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #122 on: March 27, 2013, 02:31:44 PM »
Mine were a bear on the CA95...My best offer is to suggest getting the engine up to operating temp, and getting at them with the impact driver again while it's hot. 

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Re: Building the Dream...
« Reply #123 on: March 27, 2013, 05:50:53 PM »
What kind of oil pump is on the 305 motor?  Slinger type? 
Would a kerosene flush of the motor cause more problems than potentially cure?
These have any felt seals?  If so, then those places have probably dried up and some leaks are likely.

Kickstarter seal is a likely place to leak.


tt, you have done a good job of cleaning her up. Margherita time?
I hate the signs of rust around the swingarm paint...
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« Reply #124 on: March 27, 2013, 07:42:31 PM »
Mine were a bear on the CA95...My best offer is to suggest getting the engine up to operating temp, and getting at them with the impact driver again while it's hot.

I'll sure try that on the clutch side. (left) Working on the right (dry) side. Got four to break loose, working on one and will have to drill the heads off of three.

Don't expect the left side to be any easier.  ::)

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