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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2013, 03:17:11 PM »
When you ride a Goldwing you understand the difference between a regular motorcycle and one that designed from the get go to be a long distance machine.

I thought my CB550 and Yamaha FJ1200 were both reasonably smooth highway machines until I got my GL1000 on the highway for the first time. Compared to the GL my 550 was a 60's British twin.
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2013, 04:04:53 PM »
You guys think the first year goldwing is going to reach collector status like the k0 or sanrcast?  So far I really haven't seen it.
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2013, 05:55:48 PM »
You guys think the first year goldwing is going to reach collector status like the k0 or sanrcast?  So far I really haven't seen it.

First year of most things are more collectible then the follow ons.

Your comparing apples and oranges w the sandcast.

It was a revolutionary bike while the goldwing was not.

That being said....I do think clean original examples of early wings will increase in value.

Look at the dreams, cb 350/450 series......no one gave a hoot about them and they were a disposable motorcycle. Values are creeping up and good ones bring respectable money now
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2013, 06:20:03 PM »
You guys think the first year goldwing is going to reach collector status like the k0 or sanrcast?  So far I really haven't seen it.

First year of most things are more collectible then the follow ons.

Your comparing apples and oranges w the sandcast.

It was a revolutionary bike while the goldwing was not.

That being said....I do think clean original examples of early wings will increase in value.

Look at the dreams, cb 350/450 series......no one gave a hoot about them and they were a disposable motorcycle. Values are creeping up and good ones bring respectable money now

Sounds right. I've talked to a local collector and he said the same thing when I asked him about the goldwing as a bike to collect. It just wasn't revolutionary enough to be on the radar. Still, it did help bring about the emergence of long distance riding. Some other bikes had a hand in it too like BMW.

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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2013, 06:22:51 PM »


I know it's very far from you but there's one here with lillte millage and good price...

http://www.lespac.com/vehicules/motos/cacouna-station/d-honda-gl-1000-ltd-antique-LPaZZ27032833WWcpZZ175WWgrZZ12



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That is a nice Wing Bert. Don't see many that nice. I can't afford to put that much cash in one. My budget is more in the $1500-$2000 and $2500 being the max.
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2013, 08:01:05 PM »
$3800 Actually seems a little low for that one. It is a 1976 LTD model. There were 2000 shipped to the US, not sure how many to Canada. They can go for big money.

I've got an LTD that I've been restoring. Just got the panels back from my painter. I rode my from Wisconsin to Sturgis last year. Way more comfortable than a 750. Just hummed along the interstate, and was then great riding through the hills out there.

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I need to get my LTD painted, it looks like crap.
I just scored a like new side cover emblem for some parts I traded.
Are you on the NGW site?

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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2013, 08:12:11 PM »
You guys think the first year goldwing is going to reach collector status like the k0 or sanrcast?  So far I really haven't seen it.

It is hard to get rid of them for me as I have a low # 75, a 76 LTD one year only and limited #'s and a 84 1200 standard 1 year only.
I would have a hard time selling any of them.
I do have a running 77 parts bike titled for 500, too bad not closer.
I have seen sweet 75's go for some good money.

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« Last Edit: March 29, 2013, 08:15:40 PM by 78 k550 »
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2013, 04:06:51 AM »
Don't know squat about GW's, but I'm reading and asking a lot of questions. A couple of things seem are the general rule by what most GWer's agree on when buying a used Wing (early models 75-77) #1 Better off not buying one that has the touring pkg added (fairing, bags, different turn signals etc) if you plain on taking all that stuff off and returning it to the original naked bike. Could run into all kind of electrical nightmares and headaches because someone not caring just as long as it worked mentality butchered up the wiring harness when all that junk was installed. #2 Get a Wing that carbs are in good condition, these carbs can be a bear to get right I've heard. Much more difficult than the sohc4 CB750 carbs.
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2013, 04:43:50 AM »
The carbs are not more difficult......just different.

The mechanical vs CV.

If you are good with the CV carbs you'll be golden.

They have a couple of  idiosyncratic things.

Like the silver pucks and fuel delivered through the box they all 4 attach to.

If its not a stock exhaust idle and main jets will be required.

I actually wound up shimming the needles incrementally to get mine to run well but I had a very unrestricted exhaust set up on mine.

I was pondering the differences between the 750 and the GL1000 today while out for a cruise.

If you are expecting a v-twin type riding experience the early wings are not that.

A Harley or big metric cruiser is all about the torque down low.

The early wings make power differently. In that regard they are like a 750 but they do it easier.
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2013, 08:51:34 PM »
You said you were looking for a two up bike, I thank the 78 79 would be best for that as the cam, carbs, and timing was changed for better low end power. I have a 75,79 and a 81 interstate running now and another 75 and a 76 LTD to get running. I guess I kinda like the GLs.
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #35 on: March 31, 2013, 07:56:42 AM »
$3800 Actually seems a little low for that one. It is a 1976 LTD model. There were 2000 shipped to the US, not sure how many to Canada. They can go for big money.

I've got an LTD that I've been restoring. Just got the panels back from my painter. I rode my from Wisconsin to Sturgis last year. Way more comfortable than a 750. Just hummed along the interstate, and was then great riding through the hills out there.
Here's my '76 LTD. If they're clean and original, they're probably worth three times as much as the standard model in same condition. It was Honda's first pimpmobile with chromed everything, gold anodized rims and spokes. I brought this one back from the dead after it sat in a warehouse for 25 years.

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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2013, 08:20:52 AM »
$3800 Actually seems a little low for that one. It is a 1976 LTD model. There were 2000 shipped to the US, not sure how many to Canada. They can go for big money.

I've got an LTD that I've been restoring. Just got the panels back from my painter. I rode my from Wisconsin to Sturgis last year. Way more comfortable than a 750. Just hummed along the interstate, and was then great riding through the hills out there.
Here's my '76 LTD. If they're clean and original, they're probably worth three times as much as the standard model in same condition. It was Honda's first pimpmobile with chromed everything, gold anodized rims and spokes. I brought this one back from the dead after it sat in a warehouse for 25 years.

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Very nice. How did you find it?  Did the LTD come in any other colours?
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2013, 10:29:36 AM »
Stu, That's one **NICE** Goldwing. Do you have project thread on it start to finish? Love to see some before and after pics. Give us some info on it, how long have you had it, where and how to you find it, how many miles, how rough and was it in running condition when you found it. I think these old Wings are become my new addiction
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2013, 01:04:50 PM »
Very nice. How did you find it?  Did the LTD come in any other colours?
Only one year, and you're looking at the only color. My employer had it stored in a back room in his warehouse. I paid him $500 for it and trailered it home.

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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2013, 01:13:51 PM »
Stu, That's one **NICE** Goldwing. Do you have project thread on it start to finish? Love to see some before and after pics. Give us some info on it, how long have you had it, where and how to you find it, how many miles, how rough and was it in running condition when you found it. I think these old Wings are become my new addiction
No project thread. I've had it about 10 years and did the work long before I joined this forum. It had 5,000 miles on it when I found it. Leaked oil from everywhere and wouldn't start. Carbs and fuel tank were almost trashed from Red Cote sealant that was dissolving. That crap was also inside the engine. Paint was basically undamaged but badly oxidized. Chrome undamaged. I had the tank stripped and nickle plated inside and out, then painted. Then virtually every mechanical part of the bike got disassembled and overhauled. All rubber parts replaced. So $500 was a cheap purchase, but I had another $1,000 in parts before I was done. Still cheap for what I've got.

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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2013, 05:55:22 PM »
I've ridden a 77 GW 1000 naked. Even without the fairing and bags it's still a pretty heavy bike and it is tall in the saddle. If you are short legged it makes it hard to do a push-back with your tip toes. Compared to the CB750 it is MUCH quicker solo or two-up and almost "0" vibrations form the engine at 80MPH, smooth as silk. I have a 75 and a76 GL in the PROJECT stage that needs a complete going over along with MANY other projects.
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2013, 07:39:14 PM »
That's a nice one but I bet the price will be closer to 2500 by the end of auction!!!
and Hickory is only 30 minutes from me!!!


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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #43 on: April 01, 2013, 05:52:56 AM »
Agreed...that is a nice one in NC. Price over $2,000 now and reserve not met. With the stuff he has done to that bike including new paint, etc. I bet the reserve is a bit down the road yet.
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #44 on: April 01, 2013, 06:08:56 AM »
What kind of MPG can one expect from the early goldwings?
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2013, 08:36:05 AM »
First year of most things are more collectible then the follow ons.

Your comparing apples and oranges w the sandcast.

It was a revolutionary bike while the goldwing was not.

That being said....I do think clean original examples of early wings will increase in value.

Look at the dreams, cb 350/450 series......no one gave a hoot about them and they were a disposable motorcycle. Values are creeping up and good ones bring respectable money now

I agree that you can't compare to the sandcast bikes. Those bikes have extra value compared to other K0's because of limited production numbers.

I would disagree about the revolutionary part. The GL was in its own way every bit as revolutionary as the CB750. It created a whole new class of large displacement long distance road bikes.
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2013, 08:42:23 AM »
I get low 30's out of mine with the bags and fairing (and 75-80mph speeds), but my carburation is still not sorted, so that may impact the mileage.

The guys at the NGW forum typically quote around 40mpg. The later bikes may actually be better because the wire wheel 75-77's have hotter cams and are tuned for more HP than the 78 and later versions.
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2013, 05:21:12 PM »
They may have it listed for $4995 but couldn't sell it andput it on eBay. Hour and forty min left and it's at 2125...


Edit: sold for $2125.
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Re: Goldwings ???
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2013, 01:46:56 PM »
Get one dhall.  I started touring with my CB550 two up with full camping gear and such.  Too much for the bike, especially once you get out of the flatlands or if you want to go more than 65.  I loved touring on a vintage bike though.  Getting it ready for the trip, meeting people, the feel of the bike, and the accomplishment of making it home. 

I moved up to the GL1000 and ride it two up all over the place.  It will carry just about whatever i put on it and will go 80 mph all day long.  Super smooth and comfy except for the stock seat but the seat is pretty.  I put a sheep skin on it and its fine. 

The Hondaline bags are real nice too and very secure.   Lots of good advice here.  The LTD's are most collectible followed by the sulfurs or the 75's.  Here are some pictures of mine. 

Nice LTD chickenman!