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[Bailgang]

Chevy made a small V8 307, but only for about 5 years, was not a very good motor. It replaced the 283 which was a great motor.

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The 307 was definitely lame, almost but not quite as bad as the Pontiac 301.

[RAFster122s]

308 was the motor in dad's 69 Plymouth Belvedere

[Retro Rocket]

308 was the motor in dad's 69 Plymouth Belvedere

Not a Holden 308   

[Retro Rocket]

Chevy made a small V8 307, but only for about 5 years, was not a very good motor. It replaced the 283 which was a great motor.

Yes, we had the asthmatic 307 as an engine option for a couple of years, i had a 283 in an old Holden Monaro and it went well.

[dave500]

the 307 is a good engine,its only strangled by its cam and measly two barrel,put the manifold from a 327 and swap the cam and they come alive,morning mick.

[Retro Rocket]

Mornin Dave.....

[dave500]

yeah the holden v8 was pretty modern in its day and quite light,it had an aluminium intake manifold,aluminum timing cover and water pump,aluminum oil pump fitted externally and was short and squat.

[Retro Rocket]

yeah the holden v8 was pretty modern in its day and quite light,it had an aluminium intake manifold,aluminum timing cover and water pump,aluminum oil pump fitted externally and was short and squat.

And in the little Torana, went like a bat outa hell.....

[RAFster122s]

308 was the motor in dad's 69 Plymouth Belvedere

Memory is failing I guess, the white Belvedere my dad had was a 2 door with the 318 V8 2 bbl carb motor (not a performance motor),  with the white pin stripe tires of course. It was  good looking car and it had a column shift.

[Retro Rocket]

308 was the motor in dad's 69 Plymouth Belvedere

Memory is failing I guess, the white Belvedere my dad had was a 2 door with the 318 V8 2 bbl carb motor (not a performance motor),  with the white pin stripe tires of course. It was  good looking car and it had a column shift.

Yep, we got the 318, 273, 340 and 360 in our version of the Chrysler family.....

[Terry in Australia]

308 was the motor in dad's 69 Plymouth Belvedere

Memory is failing I guess, the white Belvedere my dad had was a 2 door with the 318 V8 2 bbl carb motor (not a performance motor),  with the white pin stripe tires of course. It was  good looking car and it had a column shift.

I had the "Fireball 318" in my VF Valiant VIP in 1978, sadly the rings and bearings were shot and it drank oil faster than it did gas, but it'd still do 120 MPH all day. I found that if I filled it with gearbox oil though, I could get almost 100 miles per gallon! (of oil................) Cheers, Terry.

[Stev-o]

I had a 318 in my 1970 Plymouth Barracuda, good motor.  But the 3 speed tranny was #$%*e, I repaired it once and then sold the car. 

An odd motor I had was in a Pontiac Tempest, it was a 326 small block V8. Holdens have them too?

[Terry in Australia]

No, only the 253 and 308. I've owned cars with both engines, my favorite is Fords 351 Cleveland engine, but the new all alloy 5 litre blown V8 with 422 BHP off the showroom floor would mop the floor with those old boat anchors now.

I always wanted a 1975 XB GT Falcon with the 4V 351, until in 2007 when I kicked one's butt off the lights with my 2.7 litre Toyota Hilux and realised that technology had passed the musclecars of the 1970's by.

Nowadays they're like Harleys, they're only efficient at turning gasoline into noise..........  

[Stev-o]

So true, Terry.  My Honda '01 S2000 had 240hp and was only a 4 cyl, 2 litre motor (2000cc). 240hp!
  Can't compare modern technology to the old muscle cars, but the old ones sure sounded incredible. 

[Bailgang]

I had a 318 in my 1970 Plymouth Barracuda, good motor.  But the 3 speed tranny was #$%*e, I repaired it once and then sold the car. 

An odd motor I had was in a Pontiac Tempest, it was a 326 small block V8. Holdens have them too?

There really was no such thing as a small or big block Pontiac, if you had enough room between the fenders to fit a 326 then you had enough room for a 455. The Pontiac 326 and 350 (not to be confused with a sbc 350) were actually some of the most most abundant "standard issue" engines Pontiac produced, you never hear much about them because not even hard core Pontiac enthusiast want them that much. The 326 and 350 puts out a bunch of torque for their displacement but their long stroke/small cyl bores make them unsuitable for high rpm/high HP use plus they're pretty heavy for a small displacement engine.

[trueblue]

yeah the holden v8 was pretty modern in its day and quite light,it had an aluminium intake manifold,aluminum timing cover and water pump,aluminum oil pump fitted externally and was short and squat.

And in the little Torana, went like a bat outa hell.....

A cousin of mine had a LX SLR5000 Torana with the L34 308 in it and a Tremec T5 dropped in behind the motor.  Talk about a bat out of hell.  The ports on that engine were enormous, big enough to lose a cat into .  He offered it to me a few years ago for 5K, I only wish I had bought it.  Instead I bought his brothers HJ 4 door GTS, that thing was a monster, but I couldn't keep fuel up to it, so I bought a bike .

[dave500]

mines not too bad if you keep out of the secondries,if its making induction noise its using fuel heavily,ive been feeding this thing for 30 years,you think i care?

[trueblue]

That was the problem I had with the Monaro, a 308 and muncie 4 speed.  It sounded so damn good when it was on song.  The other problem was it had a lumpy as hell cam in it and pulled like a freight train at over 4000rpm.  It would easily turn the 245 tyres into smoke under acceleration with no clutch help in second, and if you changed into 3rd a little hard it would do the same .

[Terry in Australia]

So true, Terry.  My Honda '01 S2000 had 240hp and was only a 4 cyl, 2 litre motor (2000cc). 240hp!

That's pretty good mate, that's probably more BHP than Dave's 308. My Rocket III's only 140 BHP at the back wheel, so probably 160-170 at the crank, but there's a guy in South Australia who can make 'em put out around 250 at the back wheel without a turbo or blower, just pistons, cams and head work. One day, when I've got some "mad money", I might go see him. Cheers, Terry.

[Bailgang]

Tell me more about this Holden 308. From the way it sounds the only small cube engine us yanks had to play with that might compare would be a 69/70 Ford Boss 302 or Chevy's DZ 302.

[Stev-o]

Wow, 250hp at the back wheel?!   You better have that tranny upgraded too!

[dave500]

That's pretty good mate, that's probably more BHP than Dave's 308

tug of war?

[Stev-o]

Naw, you win Dave.  You've had that muscle car for 30 years and I sold mine after 8.

[Terry in Australia]

Wow, 250hp at the back wheel?!   You better have that tranny upgraded too!

That was done when the output shaft bearing was replaced, Triumph installed the "Upgrade Kit" which apparently included a couple of new gears and selectors and lots of other associated parts ($5K value if I had to pay for it) to replace the items that are prone to wear in the earlier Rocket's. The kit upgrades the engine and transmission to 2010 spec, which was apparently when they ironed out all the bugs.

There are a couple of guys on the R3 Owners site who have installed the blower kits (which takes the RWBHP to 250 with no other mods) and have had no issues with the drive train. I don't know if they've had the upgrade kits installed though, as Triumph was too cheap to do a recall so only installed the kits when a bike came in with a blown output shaft bearing.

Of course, with a 0-60 time of 2.8 seconds off the showroom floor it's not a bike that needs much in the way of performance tuning, but nothing exceeds, like excess! Cheers, Terry.

[dave500]

Tell me more about this Holden 308. From the way it sounds the only small cube engine us yanks had to play with that might compare would be a 69/70 Ford Boss 302 or Chevy's DZ 302.

they were and are still a great engine,for the cost of a full rebuild though a lot of guys are just fitting an injected crate engine of some sort,the 308s get stroked to 355 and 383,the later 304 destroked versions had good injection which gets used on these strokers also any carb like holleys,,the stock carb was the good ole boy qjet on the 308s which i like and the 253 got the stromberg ww2 two barrel,the later smog 253 got the qjet though,the first 253/308s only had pcv valves,the later ones got smog #$%* like egr and thermo controlled advance and shift points in the autos and all that horrible stuff with the detuned cam shafts,,the 253 and 308 shared the same heads and valves!there was a factory hotter version called the "L34"on 308s only that had slightly bigger valves and cam,,i have the L34 valves in mine,the early heads have no heat cross over,the later smog ones do and the stock alloy inlet manifolds warp,you can swap the later injected 304 heads onto the earlier blocks so long as you use the later injected type cam as the valves are staggered differently,those heads can be used with carbs ok,they are a good cheap head compared to having an earlier one ported or such and offer even better porting possibilities,do you want me to ship an engine over to you?