Ok Thanks. I also have an F2 head that measures 72.3mm. So I have three heads - K4, 392 and a 410 - that measue 72.3mm. The chamber volumes are: K4 - 22.3cc, 392 - 22.8cc, 410 - 28.5cc. The 410 head does not look as if it has been messed with but the other two look to have some de-shrouding done. Pat