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Re: Boston Marathon Explosion
« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2013, 07:18:59 PM »

Best thing you can do is just go about your business, if you don't, the bastards win.

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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2013, 07:20:47 PM »

Best thing you can do is just go about your business, if you don't, the bastards win.
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2013, 07:22:11 PM »
Before we start treading down the path of potentially condemning a whole race of people and going certain down political paths before the facts are fully known I think we all need to take a few deep breaths and truly think before we type here about this subject.
 
At this time all we know for sure is that Bombs went off in Boston and people were hurt. We have no idea who is to blame yet so please don't go disparaging people before you know FACTS.
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Re: Boston Marathon Explosion
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2013, 07:26:55 PM »
Cafe, It is terrorism, the word is not tied to any group or ideology, it is an act. 

Where is the evidence that currently proves this statement? The fact it was at a marathon, by the VIP box, significance of the date, in Boston? I'm not saying its not a terrorist action by a remote or foreign entity but at this time I have not seeing the supporting evidence that allows that conclusive decision. At this point its just a crime that needs analyzed.
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2013, 07:39:17 PM »
At this point its just a crime that needs analyzed.


Yeah, a crime of terrorism...

Let's remember that Timothy McVeigh committed an act of terrorism. Not all terrorist's are Middle Eastern Muslims.

Edit: Let me clarify that not all Middle Eastern Muslims are terrorist's either, it just seems to be the general train of thought for too many people...
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Re: Boston Marathon Explosion
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2013, 07:43:48 PM »
Cafe, It is terrorism, the word is not tied to any group or ideology, it is an act. 

Where is the evidence that currently proves this statement? The fact it was at a marathon, by the VIP box, significance of the date, in Boston? I'm not saying its not a terrorist action by a remote or foreign entity but at this time I have not seeing the supporting evidence that allows that conclusive decision. At this point its just a crime that needs analyzed.

I will say this one more time. It was an act of terrorism. It does not need to be tied to any Country or Religion. I don;t care if the #$%*s ancestors came over on the Mayflower and his partner was related to Thomas Jefferson, they are Terrorists.  It is a violent act to kill, maim and otherwise put the general population in an anxious state.

What makes for the Terror is that it seems to happen randomly without warning. Will they be found, probably. Will they get a a lethal injection...............hopefully.   
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2013, 08:04:41 PM »
Our thoughts and prayers go out to all involved.Crush,Mike glad to know you ok,but so many not! Damn this hurts,my sister in law was on 61st floor of second World Trade Center when it got hit,we were supposed to be up to visit later that week.She got out by about 5 minutes,still running when it came down.Yes,blood chilling to hear her story.Damn them all to hell to commit such cowardly acts.Hopefully justice will be quick and severe!A repeat of Bin Ladens trial sounds good. >:( :( Bill
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Re: Boston Marathon Explosion
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2013, 08:07:02 PM »
It is a violent act to kill, maim and otherwise put the general population in an anxious state.

What makes for the Terror is that it seems to happen randomly without warning. Will they be found, probably. Will they get a a lethal injection...............hopefully.   

All possible, no facts.. This could have been a targeted attack and the "terror" you speak of was just a side affect of convenience. The label of terrorism is pending data.. 
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Re: Boston Marathon Explosion
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2013, 08:13:32 PM »
It is a violent act to kill, maim and otherwise put the general population in an anxious state.

What makes for the Terror is that it seems to happen randomly without warning. Will they be found, probably. Will they get a a lethal injection...............hopefully.   

All possible, no facts.. This could have been a targeted attack and the "terror" you speak of was just a side affect of convenience. The label of terrorism is pending data..

Your not hearing what Bobby is saying mate, it WAS and act of terror regardless of who did it, a massive explosion anywhere in a public place that wasn't accidental is an act of terror.....
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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2013, 08:16:32 PM »
It is a violent act to kill, maim and otherwise put the general population in an anxious state.

What makes for the Terror is that it seems to happen randomly without warning. Will they be found, probably. Will they get a a lethal injection...............hopefully.   

All possible, no facts.. This could have been a targeted attack and the "terror" you speak of was just a side affect of convenience. The label of terrorism is pending data..

Your not hearing what Bobby is saying mate, it WAS and act of terror regardless of who did it, a massive explosion anywhere in a public place that wasn't accidental is an act of terror.....

No I am hearing what he is saying and I agree that this can be labelled an act of terror BUT terrorism is still pending motivation.
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2013, 08:18:42 PM »
It is a violent act to kill, maim and otherwise put the general population in an anxious state.

What makes for the Terror is that it seems to happen randomly without warning. Will they be found, probably. Will they get a a lethal injection...............hopefully.   

All possible, no facts.. This could have been a targeted attack and the "terror" you speak of was just a side affect of convenience. The label of terrorism is pending data..

Your not hearing what Bobby is saying mate, it WAS and act of terror regardless of who did it, a massive explosion anywhere in a public place that wasn't accidental is an act of terror.....

No I am hearing what he is saying and I agree that this can be labelled an act of terror BUT terrorism is still pending motivation.

Who fcuking cares, why are you here arguing semantics..... >:(
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Re: Boston Marathon Explosion
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2013, 08:24:33 PM »
This crap needs to stop. No more fcking around. Take out 1 American and expect to lose thousands of your own should be the way to go. Level a couple of these terrorist's home towns and they may think twice before seeing the US as a target. That's what I think. Kill them all.  Have a nice day.

Thats the kind of thinking that will make it worse, killing  indiscriminately is what they do, do you wish to become a terrorist as well.?  My condolences to all involved, Crush, you are a lucky guy...

This is why, its times like these where irrational thoughts are not needed *shrug* @ >:(

Two hours earlier and yeah I would have been on board with terrorism without much data analysis. Two hours after the event removes a lot of the terror and terrorism motives and becomes more targeted and even possible wanting to reduce innocent death toll. Any incident of purposeful loss of innocent life is unacceptable but this could have been a lot worse.
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2013, 08:29:29 PM »
Cafe, did you not watch the news? Did you not see the look of terror in the faces of those that were there. Whoever did this created the act of terror. Period.  Could have been your nephew, your neighbor or a foreign terrorist but it IS terror.
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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2013, 08:38:16 PM »
I think I see what Cafeelite is getting at.  Here is the definition of terrorism from the FBI's page - "Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives” (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85). "  What was the motive? That remains to be known, which I believe is Cafe's point.

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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2013, 09:50:50 PM »
This crap needs to stop. No more fcking around. Take out 1 American and expect to lose thousands of your own should be the way to go. Level a couple of these terrorist's home towns and they may think twice before seeing the US as a target. That's what I think. Kill them all.  Have a nice day.

So by your logic we should have blown up Lockport, NY or maybe Pendelton, NY....these were after all places where Tim McVeigh was born and grew up in.  While in the service he was stationed at Fort Riley KS...maybe level that place too?  I guess you didn't learn much from our recent past . ::)

So....Einstein, what do you wanna do if the perps end up being homegrown fanatics? 
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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2013, 10:10:55 PM »
This crap needs to stop. No more fcking around. Take out 1 American and expect to lose thousands of your own should be the way to go. Level a couple of these terrorist's home towns and they may think twice before seeing the US as a target. That's what I think. Kill them all.  Have a nice day.

Thats the kind of thinking that will make it worse, killing  indiscriminately is what they do, do you wish to become a terrorist as well.?  My condolences to all involved, Crush, you are a lucky guy...

This is why, its times like these where irrational thoughts are not needed *shrug* @ >:(

Two hours earlier and yeah I would have been on board with terrorism without much data analysis. Two hours after the event removes a lot of the terror and terrorism motives and becomes more targeted and even possible wanting to reduce innocent death toll. Any incident of purposeful loss of innocent life is unacceptable but this could have been a lot worse.

Irrational, you want to argue over a definition of a friggin word while people are dying due to a terrorist attack {home grown or not} and members here are expressing remorse and now you are #$%*ing about emotions or irrational thought...seriously , also , i don't know how many marathons you've been to but the winner doesn't usually come home to the biggest crowd, people are still running for hours after the winner gets home and the streets are lined with supporters and family, even the poor victims and families from Sandy Hook were there, and once again if you had watched the news footage you would know that it mattered not what time it was, the street barriers are what limited the carnage, there were packed crowds still watching, not many more people could have fitted between the building and the street barricade, it was packed. Considering on a normal day there would have also been less people makes it a targeted attack for what ever reason....If you think that was intended to reduce the carnage then you are delusional...  No one is having a go at you having an opinion, but a little more thought should go into what you have to say....
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« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2013, 10:33:30 PM »
Irrational, you want to argue over a definition of a friggin word while people are dying due to a terrorist attack {home grown or not} and members here are expressing remorse and now you are #$%*ing about emotions or irrational thought...seriously

If you think that was intended to reduce the carnage then you are delusional...  No one is having a go at you having an opinion, but a little more thought should go into what you have to say....

I was in Boston late last year, walked the MIT campus not far from the incident and have co-works that had family there. I assure you I can personally link to the situation, so yeah I am serious. I am also not letting emotion cloud my ability to asses the situation and the fact is that there is not enough data to indicate the target or threat(s) at this point in time. When that data comes and is proven accurate, I will then grab my pitchfork.
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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2013, 11:17:32 PM »
This point "there is not enough data to indicate the target or threat(s) at this point in time." I agree with.
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« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2013, 12:26:03 AM »
Once again, another tragedy unfolds in the US. It doesn't matter who did it or why, what matters is that it's happened, and innocent people have died, or have suffered horrific injuries.

My thoughts go out to the folks of Boston, and to those families who are grieving for their loss. One thing that American's are very good at is catching and punishing bad guys, but that won't provide much comfort for the families of the dead and injured tonight.  :'(
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« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2013, 04:30:00 AM »
This crap needs to stop. No more fcking around. Take out 1 American and expect to lose thousands of your own should be the way to go. Level a couple of these terrorist's home towns and they may think twice before seeing the US as a target. That's what I think. Kill them all.  Have a nice day.

So by your logic we should have blown up Lockport, NY or maybe Pendelton, NY....these were after all places where Tim McVeigh was born and grew up in.  While in the service he was stationed at Fort Riley KS...maybe level that place too?  I guess you didn't learn much from our recent past . ::)

So....Einstein, what do you wanna do if the perps end up being homegrown fanatics?

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« Reply #45 on: April 16, 2013, 09:05:17 AM »
I think what is clear is everyone is pretty upset, angry (like me) and/or worried; however, most of our cities are on high alert for additional problems so please try to relax for the time being and think positive energy towards those with the sad losses. Count your blessings, your health and hold your family tight.
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« Reply #46 on: April 16, 2013, 09:06:16 AM »

Let's not turn this thread into 'personal attacks' on each other. This is about the people of Boston and the struggles they are dealing with. Anyone hear from Andy750? Isn't he from Boston?
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« Reply #47 on: April 16, 2013, 10:25:14 AM »

Let's not turn this thread into 'personal attacks' on each other. This is about the people of Boston and the struggles they are dealing with. Anyone hear from Andy750? Isn't he from Boston?

Thanks for the thoughts and also to BobbyR who called me. All good here thanks. I wasnt anywhere near the Marathon yesterday (unlike my neighbours who were mere blocks away from the explosion). Sad day for Boston. Reminds me of the London Tube bombings in 2005 and the years living in the UK under the IRA terrorist threat.

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« Reply #48 on: April 16, 2013, 12:26:05 PM »

Let's not turn this thread into 'personal attacks' on each other. This is about the people of Boston and the struggles they are dealing with. Anyone hear from Andy750? Isn't he from Boston?

Thanks for the thoughts and also to BobbyR who called me. All good here thanks. I wasnt anywhere near the Marathon yesterday (unlike my neighbours who were mere blocks away from the explosion). Sad day for Boston. Reminds me of the London Tube bombings in 2005 and the years living in the UK under the IRA terrorist threat.

Andy, it's just over 20 years (20th March 1993) since the IRA bombed Warrington killing 2 children and maiming many more. It was this tragedy that started the peace process that continues to this day.
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