Topic: Boston Marathon Explosion

[faux fiddy]

The only positive is it could have been worse.  McVeigh's truck bomb would have killed or maimed everyone within a quarter mile around and ten or more stories up.

I think they have a person of interest.

[rb550four]

Srust 58, Really? Do you believe what you wrote? Like targeting an American town would be at all appropriate? I may be irate and possibly out of control sometimes but by no means an Einstein or a total a$$hole.
  While it's true that I don't understand what would drive someone to do this to innocent people , I do understand that ground troops have been sent to counties to destroy the evil and leave the considered "innocent" safe. That is why we haven't bombed without warning the target area first, problem is, the evil leave with the innocent. So that doesn't work.
 The other thing that doesn't work is our servicemen being attacked , booby trapped, or otherwise placed in harms way by "innocent" people who would lead them to believe that they are not associated with those who would be the enemy. This is why we loose ground troops. period.
  The suggestion that bombing 1000 of theirs to one of ours is quite the pill to swallow , although I don't know of a stronger deterrent. Do you?
   We have an air force of drones that could get the point made with no US losses, My thought was , had it been done once, the precedent as a viable action would be set,  like that of the Atomic bomb, it's so horrific, that it has been a deterrent for 50 years. Einstein , no that isn't me. I'm still looking for answers and a better way to avoid such actions as terrorism, but to suggest to take out  an American city like in Mc veigh's case. That may be the words of an a$$hole. We need to find an answer to this before it becomes commonplace . If you have a better idea ,please share, we should explore other options, because what we have been doing doesn't work. If the bomber is home grown,of course, he'll have to die.
  I accept that everyone has an opinion, and they should, being rude however, is not acceptable.
Have a nice day.

 

[MRieck]

I'll keep walking down Boylston St to go to dinner etc.

[faux fiddy]

I'll keep walking down Boylston St to go to dinner etc.

+1!

[BobbyR]

I'll keep walking down Boylston St to go to dinner etc.

You do that Mike. Nothing pisses off bullies more than people not being afraid of them. Don't skip desert !!!

[JeffSTL]

This crap needs to stop. No more fcking around. Take out 1 American and expect to lose thousands of your own should be the way to go. Level a couple of these terrorist's home towns and they may think twice before seeing the US as a target. That's what I think. Kill them all.  Have a nice day.

  I accept that everyone has an opinion, and they should, being rude however, is not acceptable.
Have a nice day.

 It may not have been necessary for Srust58 to be "rude", but I think you missed his point. You are assuming that some "foreign" person/people did this horrific act with no evidence to support this idea and are ready to level towns and kill thousands of innocent people.  What is this based on? Prejudice?  Some might find that rude.  Maybe he could have put it more nicely, but he was simply pointing out that this could have been done by a U.S. citizen, like Timothy McVeigh.

I just hope they find who did this and justice is served.

[BeSeeingYou]

Srust 58, Really? Do you believe what you wrote? Like targeting an American town would be at all appropriate? I may be irate and possibly out of control sometimes but by no means an Einstein or a total a$$hole.
  While it's true that I don't understand what would drive someone to do this to innocent people , I do understand that ground troops have been sent to counties to destroy the evil and leave the considered "innocent" safe. That is why we haven't bombed without warning the target area first, problem is, the evil leave with the innocent. So that doesn't work.
 The other thing that doesn't work is our servicemen being attacked , booby trapped, or otherwise placed in harms way by "innocent" people who would lead them to believe that they are not associated with those who would be the enemy. This is why we loose ground troops. period.
  The suggestion that bombing 1000 of theirs to one of ours is quite the pill to swallow , although I don't know of a stronger deterrent. Do you?
   We have an air force of drones that could get the point made with no US losses, My thought was , had it been done once, the precedent as a viable action would be set,  like that of the Atomic bomb, it's so horrific, that it has been a deterrent for 50 years. Einstein , no that isn't me. I'm still looking for answers and a better way to avoid such actions as terrorism, but to suggest to take out  an American city like in Mc veigh's case. That may be the words of an a$$hole. We need to find an answer to this before it becomes commonplace . If you have a better idea ,please share, we should explore other options, because what we have been doing doesn't work. If the bomber is home grown,of course, he'll have to die.
  I accept that everyone has an opinion, and they should, being rude however, is not acceptable.
Have a nice day.

 

I see Jeff comprehends it but you missed the point entirely.

 YOU where the one who suggested taking out a terrorist's home town.  My argument was just how would you apply this logic if it was a domestic or homegrown terrorist?   Are you a fan of collective punishment?  Say it is some foreign group or individual...maybe he/they comes from a village of a few hundred, maybe a town of thousands, what did you suggest?  The Nazis did that in Lidice Czechoslovakia, and Oradour-sur-Glane in France.  Saddam Hussein did it with the poison gas attack on Halabja,  the Hama massarce by Hafez al Assad in Syria, or the massacre of civilians at No gun Ri in Korea, or My Lai in Vietnam.  Again, dude this is what YOU are suggesting. Go back and read what you posted and think about it.  YOU want to put our country in this same company. Then you have the nerve to complain when I call you on it and call ME rude....Dude, you don't deserve any respect for what you suggest. 

In case you miss the point again maybe this will help see the parallels from history with YOUR SUGGESTION.

In June 1942, Lidice, a village in Czechoslovakia, ceased to exist.  An individual from Lidice had been implicated in the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich, the Nazi controller of Bohemia and Moravia, and Hitler’s order was given to “teach the Czechs a final lesson of subservience and humility”.
 
In April 2013, _____, a village in _______, ceased to exist.  An individual from _____ had been implicated in the terrorist attack in Boston Massachusetts during the marathon.  The President's order was given to "teach the ______ a final lesson of subservience and humility".

[BeSeeingYou]

This crap needs to stop. No more fcking around. Take out 1 American and expect to lose thousands of your own should be the way to go. Level a couple of these terrorist's home towns and they may think twice before seeing the US as a target. That's what I think. Kill them all.  Have a nice day.

So by your logic we should have blown up Lockport, NY or maybe Pendelton, NY....these were after all places where Tim McVeigh was born and grew up in.  While in the service he was stationed at Fort Riley KS...maybe level that place too?  I guess you didn't learn much from our recent past .

So....Einstein, what do you wanna do if the perps end up being homegrown fanatics?

And this "wisdom" is from somebody who wanted to shoot all farmers to protect wolfs?  LOL!  Too funny!

Get over it......that was tongue in cheek that's what the  or the are for.  I think I used the winky face.   That means it was a joke if you still don't get it.  And then you exaggerate again as usual...it was only a certain few.

[Terry in Australia]

It really is a pity that the OP of this thread intended it to be a mark of sympathy and solidarity from our community to the people of Boston, and a few clowns here have turned it into a p1ssing contest. Pathetic. 

[mick7504]

It really is a pity that the OP of this thread intended it to be a mark of sympathy and solidarity from our community to the people of Boston, and a few clowns here have turned it into a p1ssing contest. Pathetic. 

Agree mate.
Civility and respect isn't a big ask.

[demon78]

I'm with you on that Terry and Mick as far as revenge goes there are ways to do it with out indiscriminately wiping out bystanders but that requires intelligence something that seems lacking these days.
Bill the demon.

[70CB750]

This crap needs to stop. No more fcking around. Take out 1 American and expect to lose thousands of your own should be the way to go. Level a couple of these terrorist's home towns and they may think twice before seeing the US as a target. That's what I think. Kill them all.  Have a nice day.

So by your logic we should have blown up Lockport, NY or maybe Pendelton, NY....these were after all places where Tim McVeigh was born and grew up in.  While in the service he was stationed at Fort Riley KS...maybe level that place too?  I guess you didn't learn much from our recent past .

So....Einstein, what do you wanna do if the perps end up being homegrown fanatics?

And this "wisdom" is from somebody who wanted to shoot all farmers to protect wolfs?  LOL!  Too funny!

Get over it......that was tongue in cheek that's what the  or the are for.  I think I used the winky face.   That means it was a joke if you still don't get it.  And then you exaggerate again as usual...it was only a certain few.

I understand what is a joke - but  your comment back in the nature picture thread did not have any smiles in it.  That's why I used exageration to show how absurd your idea was.

Where I come from we don't take ideas like that lightly (ideas such as taking out a social group) because we know it can happen and it did happen over and over again in the name of ideology, greater goods, race or just some dumb principals. 

Anyway, I don't think you are total 'bleep'    - first American ever to know anything about Lidice for example - let's call it peace. 

[BobbyR]

It really is a pity that the OP of this thread intended it to be a mark of sympathy and solidarity from our community to the people of Boston, and a few clowns here have turned it into a p1ssing contest. Pathetic. 

Well put!

[Bob Wessner]

It really is a pity that the OP of this thread intended it to be a mark of sympathy and solidarity from our community to the people of Boston, and a few clowns here have turned it into a p1ssing contest. Pathetic. 

Well put!

+1

[rb550four]

My apologies to all those who took offense of my opinion. 37 years ago I made a pledge to protect our rights, to protect our free nation, to preserve our freedom . I would still fight to the last breath to preserve your freedom to speak your opinion, even if I don't agree. My apologies. 

[demon78]

I for one accept your apology, I also swore to defend my country 56 years ago different country same idea I think that stomping in with all guns blazing was an option in the distant past but now I think you have to get a lot more personal and target exactly the person, organization etc.
Bill the demon.

[BobbyR]

I have been thinking about this. 12 years ago I and several million people stood and watched the World Trade Center Towers come down. It tore the heart out of the region for months. You cannot gauge the impact on a City by the body count.

New York is a tough Town, Boston is a tough Town. In time the tears stop, the site gets cleaned up, people begin going about their business. Life goes on. The Marathon will go on next year which is a major F@@K You to these Animals. This does not mean you forget, you never do. You may reflect when reminded, but you go on.

When the crowd at Yankee Stadium stands and sings "Sweet Caroline" before the game, you know we all come together at these times.   

[demon78]

You know Bobby it wasn't just you and  several million it was a vast number from many countries who said (Ohh #$%*) what now, is it our turn next, and sympathized greatly, for at that point every ones world changed for the worst, I was going to make a point about the all of this but there's a major storm coming through. (point) To some extent Americans make the mistake that they were/are the only ones involved, they are not, the world is too small a place now evry ones in it.
Bill the demon.
ps great spring if it's not bloody snowing, it's 50 mm of rain.

[y2kc0wb0y]

http://www.thestory.org/stories/2013-04/combing-debris-after-bombing

[bwaller]

I just watched the FBI's press conference and it seems they have a couple people they'd like to get closer to. I know the US Customs here are making all traffic entering Canada pass through their side for inspection first. There are also extra agents at Canada Customs.

I'm a maple syrup producer and we're in the bush these days (about a mile from NY state as the crow flies)cleaning tubing and the helicopters from both countries have been working the border.

It's obvious from this one little part of the world that no stone is being left unturned.

[BobbyR]

You know Bobby it wasn't just you and  several million it was a vast number from many countries who said (Ohh #$%*) what now, is it our turn next, and sympathized greatly, for at that point every ones world changed for the worst, I was going to make a point about the all of this but there's a major storm coming through. (point) To some extent Americans make the mistake that they were/are the only ones involved, they are not, the world is too small a place now evry ones in it.
Bill the demon.
ps great spring if it's not bloody snowing, it's 50 mm of rain.

Point well taken. And I apologize. We have a tendency to be a bit insulated at times. Good luck with the storm.

[Terry in Australia]

Well it looks like it's just about all over.

The older brother died in custody from injuries received in the gun battle, the younger brother escaped, and apparently hid in a boat in the back yard of a Watertown residence, and has either bled to death from previous injuries, or from more gunfire from the police.

Looks like justice has been done. Cheers, Terry.

[Bailgang]

I imagine it's the same for any police dept in any country but here in the US you open fire on a cop and you might as well put your head between your legs and kiss your a.. goodbye because they tend to shoot first, ask questions later. I think a question that will linger is what exactly set these brothers off to do what they did?

[Bob Wessner]

Actually they are reporting he is in custody and the police didn't return fire. Which is good now they can find out if others are involved.

[Terry in Australia]

Yep, you're right Bob. They are saying that he's (just) alive, but they'll be working hard to keep him alive so they can interrogate him, and as MA doesn't have the death penalty, they may charge him under federal terrorist law, which does.

Either way, it looks like it's over, and the people of Boston can rest easy. Cheers, Terry.