Mixture = fuel to AIR ratio at ANY given instance. Ive never seen a forum so scared to tune a carb.
I fully understand that its a lot easier to just put the correct stock jets etc in and run the air box and just go.
One drawback to that and its something we should all be looking into is its really rare to get stock pipes. All I see are 4 into 1 pipes nowadays.
I also see a million posts of just put the stock filters on and not a whole lot of hey I have pods this is what works for me, these are the drawbacks, these are the gains...
You don't see a lot of posts about what works with pods because they truly don't. You will get it to idle ok, then the midrange will be off. Or they will run great at WOT and then they are fat and ruin plugs. You may be able to get them to run within an acceptable ballpark range, but there will always be a trade off. TL;DR.
You don't see a ton of posts talking about how people got their pods to run great because they don't.
Sorry but what you think is just not true.
I agree there is not much posted on how to make bikes with pods run right
but racing bikes do it all the time.
Velocity stacks or pods.
I even posted a video of a 1978 CB750 with 1978 carbs and velocity stacks that ran perfect.
No hesitation at all and even when the throttle was turned as quickly as possible. No hesitation.
The problem is many owners just change the main jet and idle jet and think they are done.
This idea will not work.
The slide needle position MUST be set correctly too.
But because setting the slide needle on the post 1970 carbs is so time consuming many owners just want to avoid it at any cost.
Lucky, you are dead wrong mate, you should read up a little more on the keihin carbs our bikes wear, i am not going to repeat myself as its been said a million times before on the forum, you also "think" your 78 ran fine but you have no comparative tests or dyno information to support that at all, so its all just a guess. Of course velocity stacks work by them selves to a degree, the carbs were designed to work with them originally, very few people that i have seen {lots of 750 race bikes} race with pods, most all use stacks only {i know of a couple using custom airboxes with great results} and this does not correlate to the street as most street riding is NOT done flat out, and i am sure if the race guys did use pods, they would use high quality pods with inbuilt stacks like the ones K&N used to make {maybe they still do ?}. Most guys here are using emgo pods that are cheap crap. Also mentioned repeatedly by the guys that have gone back to the CORRECT airbox is that the effect of side winds, even moving your leg makes the bike run differently, so while you may think your bike is tuned well {standing still} little {or large} changes in air velocity says different, not to re-mention {hundreds of times} the FACT that the kehins were designed to have undisturbed air drawn into their throats, hence the reason they are so much easier to tune with an airbox. I'll say it again, the whole Honda induction system on the SOHC Honda's was designed as a whole, anything else is a compromise, simple as that.. One other thing about racers Lucky, nearly every period race bike i have seen use CR's or other after market carbs, so the comparison simple doesn't wash, the stock Honda carbs are simply too small for a competitive race bike and weren't designed for racing...
