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Offline 78whiteorbs

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Frame conundrum
« on: May 12, 2013, 11:15:51 AM »
I got a near complete 1978 Cb750K for a hundred bux yesterday!
It does not have a title and had no rear shocks but turns over and starts easy with great compression. Was missing tank and the seat but for a hundred bux , I figured there was no way I could go wrong.
Wanna make a "bratish" style bike like this one here somewhat minus the Firestones and maybe a super bike bar instead of the clip ons. Anyhow about the frame. Anyone know if a 74cb750K frame would line up in the neck area well with the 78K . I have a titled frame for a 74 and am thinking to just cut the neck off and have a bud of mine who is a pro do the transplant. I was thinking that would be easier than swapping everything else over the the other frame. What do you guys think>?

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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2013, 11:56:51 AM »
also does anyone know if a 78 frontend will slide into that 74 neck.
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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2013, 03:36:40 PM »
You think cutting and resetting a steering head would be easier, ?  I would have to disagree, just swap frames, far easier.  ;)
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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2013, 04:08:39 PM »
I agree.
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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2013, 05:15:06 PM »
Law of unintended consequences will prevail.
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Offline Vinhead1957

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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2013, 06:21:48 PM »
I have never heard Murphy's law called that!
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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2013, 06:45:41 PM »
Much easier & legal to switch the frame.......but retain the K8 swingarm / chainguard to be sure the sprockets and chain have room.
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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2013, 07:11:06 PM »
good food for thought thanks.
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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2013, 08:20:40 PM »
To cut and weld and line up properly you would have to take them both apart anyway. No brainer, switch frames. I have cut and welded on them, lots of work and don't burn that paint, it will make you sick.
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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2013, 07:57:31 AM »
Was always wondering about this lack of title issue?  Seems some states require a title otherwise your frame is toast.  In AZ I'm to understand you can take it to the MVD, post a bond and eventually get a title.  Why couldn't someone take the bike to a state that allows this, get the title, then transfer the titled bike back to their state?  I realize that's allot of time and some money but seems it would be allot cheaper then swapping engines, cutting frames, etc.
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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2013, 08:23:24 AM »
Well I have a 550k and I was thinking about doing the same thing with my frame and let me tell you I am glad I didn't because it was a breeze tearing down to the frame.

I undid the electrical up to the front end, removed the whole front end with one clean pull including electrical. That saved a ton of time. I would say I worked on it 4 hours and it was stripped bare.

One reason I went this route is so everything can be cleaned and painted if need be. In the end I will be much happier.
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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2013, 11:37:37 AM »
Quote from: RSchaefer on May 13, 2013, 07:57:31 AM
Was always wondering about this lack of title issue?  Seems some states require a title otherwise your frame is toast.  In AZ I'm to understand you can take it to the MVD, post a bond and eventually get a title.  Why couldn't someone take the bike to a state that allows this, get the title, then transfer the titled bike back to their state?  I realize that's allot of time and some money but seems it would be allot cheaper then swapping engines, cutting frames, etc.

Have you ever been stopped and have a cop ask to see the frame number or engine #?
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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2013, 12:44:03 PM »
No!  Have you?
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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2013, 01:46:17 PM »
Quote from: lucky on May 13, 2013, 11:37:37 AM
Quote from: RSchaefer on May 13, 2013, 07:57:31 AM
Was always wondering about this lack of title issue?  Seems some states require a title otherwise your frame is toast.  In AZ I'm to understand you can take it to the MVD, post a bond and eventually get a title.  Why couldn't someone take the bike to a state that allows this, get the title, then transfer the titled bike back to their state?  I realize that's allot of time and some money but seems it would be allot cheaper then swapping engines, cutting frames, etc.

Have you ever been stopped and have a cop ask to see the frame number or engine #?

right ?!  i'm in a similar predicament, only i have a titled frame but the head has been attached to another [unknown] year/model, so i have frankenframe.  the welding job looks spectacular, but i don't want to run into a bunch of oddball fitment issues.  considering switching VIN plates to my unmodded, untitled frame and just redoing the stamped in VIN myself.    :P

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Re: Frame conundrum
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2013, 02:56:45 PM »
Quote from: RSchaefer on May 13, 2013, 12:44:03 PM
No!  Have you?

Yes i have, is it worth the risk should be the question....
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