Topic: Made in China

[ekpent]

Hadn't picked up any stock parts in awhile. Got this tach seal yesterday,genuine Honda part with those three words we all love to see.  Made in China.      What don't they make over there.

[dave500]

makes me ill,looks the same packet those flavour sachets are,,like you find in instant noodles?instant tacho seal,,just add genuine japanese honda?

[Stev-o]

Say it isn't so

[ofreen]

I love irony.

[HondanutRider]

I must really be getting old!  I can remember when "Made in Japan" was regarded as being cheap inferior goods.

[Lostboy Steve]

I must really be getting old!  I can remember when "Made in Japan" was regarded as being cheap inferior goods.

+1 Not for nothing, my 88cc Lifan engine on my z50 seems great.

[malcolmgb]

My Honda Jazz (Fit in USA & Canada) was built in China, I just trust the Honda reputation 
They now build them in the UK.

[ekpent]

I must really be getting old!  I can remember when "Made in Japan" was regarded as being cheap inferior goods.

I can remember when the really cheap stuff came from Hong Kong.

[Trevor from Warragul]

Chinese manufacturers can & will make quality goods.  It just depends on whether you're willing to pay more. My youngest brother works as a gaffer & gets a lot of lights made in China.  He gives them the specs & they deliver exactly the quality he's after.  Costs more but still a helluva lot cheaper than the Italian brands

[brooze72]

I must really be getting old!  I can remember when "Made in Japan" was regarded as being cheap inferior goods.

Yes, I remember in the late 60's when we called a Japanese made micrometer a "C" clamp!

[Terry in Australia]

While Chinese products are cheap, and the quality appears to be all over the place depending on what you're buying, (crappy Chinese shockers, for instance) not everything manufactured in China is crap.

Some BMW bike engines are made in China now, and China has been making small engines for Honda and Yamaha for years. If you own a "Japanese" scooter built in the last 20 years, it was probably made in China, with a "Made in Japan" sticker attached in the Chinese factory.

The Japanese "Big Four" Motorcycle manufacturers build factories not just where it's cheap, but also, where it's smart to have them. There are millions of scooter riders in China, so why build them in Japan, then pay to freight them to China?

Up until 2009, Honda Goldwings were built in Ohio, and why not? 90% of Goldwing riders reside in the USA. If it wasn't for Honda being forced by the Japanese government to move some of it's manufacturing back on-shore to deal with an unemployment problem in Japan, Goldwings would still be "Born in the USA". Cheers, Terry.

[BobbyR]

You have to watch the Chinese. My company bought brackets for heavy underfloor equipment. They were poorly welded and cracked. Our West Indian welders now make all the brackets. West Indian Vocational Schools are top notch.

[goldarrow]

My iPhone is made in china, and the damn thing cost me 200 bucks plus tax. And I use it to read the forum

[Terry in Australia]

You have to watch the Chinese. My company bought brackets for heavy underfloor equipment. They were poorly welded and cracked. Our West Indian welders now make all the brackets. West Indian Vocational Schools are top notch.

Yep, India is becoming another huge manufacturing hub Bobby, I was reading my BMW Club magazine in the dunny a little while ago, and saw that BMW have gone into some sort of unholy alliance with the Indians to build sub 500cc bikes under the BMW brand in India. Cheers, Terry.

[750K]

I'd be more worried about made in India products than china, Volvo started out sourcing oem parts to India before it was bought by a Chinese company, Indian made Volvo motor mounts for 240's were lasting anywhere between 2-8 months for some folks. As much as I hate to say it Chinese manufacturing has come along way in the last decade, I still won't buy tires made in china though. #$%* that...

[nippon]

Some of the Honda D.I.D. rims are made in Indonesia and they did a perfect job on making a hard and shiny chrome surface which is hard to scratch.
Much more better polishing preparation and chrome than OEM mufflers, fenders and headlight brackets and the rest of the chrome parts which are made in Japan.
I guess, caused by environmental specifications.
BTW, a lot of small parts like bolts come from Italy.

nippon

[Terry in Australia]

I think the tires on the back of my Hyundai are Chinese mate, they've done around 40,000 miles from new, and so far, no problems, they should be good for another 40,000.

The worst tires I ever put on a bike were German. (Metzlers) They didn't blow, or delaminate, or anything exciting like that, they just didn't grip well.

I bought one bike with Cheng Shin tires on it, and they were better than the Metzlers, surprisingly. Cheng Shins are made in Taiwan though, not China. Cheers, Terry.

[dave500]

a few of us would always run the cheap at the time 'IRC" knobby tyres on dirt bikes,same grip and wear etc as the super duper ones,dirt/shale/quartz gravel traction is different though from road riding,,the rear wheel is always spinning more or less anyway, and anything will chew out in no time?may as well use the cheap ones on dirt,the patterns are all the same,just chunky knobs.

[ekpent]

I am sure that the quality issues boil down to the quality control that is overseen by the parent company,don't think Honda would allow to much shabby product, expect for those craps exhaust pipes somebody was building that were slipping through,right Johnie.  Counterfeit stuff is worrisome.

[xsmooth69x]

wait so the original post was showing there are now counterfeit genuine honda parts or that it was just made in china?

[ekpent]

wait so the original post was showing there are now counterfeit genuine honda parts or that it was just made in china?

Just made in China-sure its the real deal since it came from my dealerships warehouse.

[xsmooth69x]

wait so the original post was showing there are now counterfeit genuine honda parts or that it was just made in china?

Just made in China-sure its the real deal since it came from my dealerships warehouse.

ok good deal because i could imagine counterfeit parts and honda packaging is possible once some parts become rare and expensive enough

[ekpent]

wait so the original post was showing there are now counterfeit genuine honda parts or that it was just made in china?

Just made in China-sure its the real deal since it came from my dealerships warehouse.

ok good deal because i could imagine counterfeit parts and honda packaging is possible once some parts become rare and expensive enough

There have been reports of fake NGK plugs and other stuff so probably anything is possible.

[Stev-o]

wait so the original post was showing there are now counterfeit genuine honda parts or that it was just made in china?

Just made in China-sure its the real deal since it came from my dealerships warehouse.

ok good deal because i could imagine counterfeit parts and honda packaging is possible once some parts become rare and expensive enough

There have been reports of fake NGK plugs and other stuff so probably anything is possible.

And I don't believe all the "NOS" Honda parts on eBay are truly NOS.

[lostinthe202]

Yes, I remember in the late 60's when we called a Japanese made micrometer a "C" clamp!

This cracks me up, I work with a guy who still distrusts Japanese tools.  Whenever I want to give him a hard time I walk by his bench and measure his parts with a mitutoyo mic and comment on how far out of tolerance they are

[BobbyR]

When is a counterfeit a counterfeit? Years ago one of my co-workers was stationed in Hong Kong. He was getting us top shelf designer jeans and other clothes at stupidly low prices through his next door neighbor.

It would seem that the owner of the factory decided to run an extra shift for himself. He bought the extra cloth from the usual cloth dealer, extra labels from the label maker, and they were sewed on the same machinery. Everyone in the supply chain was in cahoots.

The fellow in Indonesia sent over audio cassettes. We noticed the printing on the paper insert was excellent and the printing on the cassette was excellent and the sound was great. I bought a cassette in a store and what did it say "Made in Indonesia". Those boys ran extra shifts also.

I laughed when I saw brand name manufacturers #$%*ing about being ripped off by "knock offs". They gave their production to someone else in a place they have no real oversight on. You teach someone else your technology or products to make, they are not yours anymore.

The Japanese have been off shoring production for decades. They went to Korea and the Koreans learned all they needed to produce the same products and kicked their asses. So, they went to Indonesia and now Vietnam, and China. China is outsourcing to Vietnam for lower costs.

In these third world countries they can do short runs of parts for our bikes very cheaply by contracting out to small shops.

Japan can no longer produce products cheaper in Japan. Their economy is upside down and their aging population and negative birthrate make matters worse. 

[goldarrow]

Just picked up these 2 seals from local Honda dealer less than $6 for both.  These came along way to be worth that much, but I'm glad.