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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2006, 11:44:02 AM »
dude,i love your seat
My seat loves you too Duster  ;)
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2006, 11:45:29 AM »
Looks great, but I'm gonna stick with flat, I believe.
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2006, 11:54:50 AM »
@ProTeal55 - which muffler do you have now?
the seat is pretty sweet.
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2006, 11:59:47 AM »
ProTeal55 - which muffler do you have now?
The exhaust on the bike is a MAC Cannister 4 into 1..
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2006, 12:20:25 PM »
Okay, we all love the seat, so can you give us some details?

Re-upholstered Giuliari?  Custom?  (if so - lots of details, please)

Going for the cafe look, but don't want to completely eliminate the possibility of a passenger, yuh know?!?   ;)

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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2006, 01:09:29 PM »
Click the link for pics/info on my bike...
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2006, 04:55:24 AM »
Matte is for lazy people.  ;D

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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2006, 06:30:24 AM »
Matte is for lazy people. ;D
Gloss is for Harley lovers  ;)
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2006, 06:46:57 AM »
proteal, do you have a problem with gas eating the paint?

i primered my tank black and it looked awesome till a bit of gas got past my crappy cap gasket and dripped down the side.
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2006, 08:17:32 AM »
proteal, do you have a problem with gas eating the paint?

i primered my tank black and it looked awesome till a bit of gas got past my crappy cap gasket and dripped down the side.

Gas is the enemy with rattlecan or any paintjob for that matter.
Everytime I fill the bike up, I follow the same process:

1. Remove handle from gas pump
2. Point downwards to shake out/drain any gas (their is always some) on the ground instead of on your tank  ::)
3. Take tip of nozzle and cup my hand around it to prevent any spillage/droppage onto tank
4. Apply low pressure to fill tank , to avoid any random spillage
5. Cover nozzle as I put it back to the pump itself
6. Don't overfill / fill to top to avoid sloshing - and possible leakage


Sounds anal, but I have just gotten into a habit of doing this.
And to answer your question , yet, I have had gas spill onto the tank and ruin the paintjob.
The engine enamel paint I have on their now takes allot more than just primer will.
If it gets messed up , just take the tank off , sand it down , and re-spray...
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2006, 08:42:28 AM »
yep, i have those habits too.  pissed me off that after using my hand to catch those last few drops, the cap gasket (which is in dire need of replacement) let some slosh out when went over a small bump.

no big deal as i plan on respraying it next week.  and again.  and again.  no big deal, but i'd like to find something a little more tollerant.  might switch to what you're using.
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2006, 09:34:34 AM »
no big deal as i plan on respraying it next week. and again. and again. no big deal, but i'd like to find something a little more tollerant. might switch to what you're using.
Dupli-color Low Gloss Engine Enamel
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Goes on light - dries thick - etc...
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2006, 10:03:39 AM »
as far as gas damage goes...

my method is a lot less anal than PTs - after painting my tank (can, Satin finish Rustoleum) i waxed it. at the gas station i make sure to have a rag handy to wipe up drips...
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2006, 10:50:42 AM »
no dice.
tried it and the gas ate through the wax quicker than anything.
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2006, 10:55:24 AM »
hm...maybe i just haven't gotten enough gas on it - i'll give it a shot.  :D
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2006, 10:56:36 AM »
no dice.
tried it and the gas ate through the wax quicker than anything.

That was my experience as well.  Junkie must have some mighty good wax.

My wife is a pro at masking my chopper tank off with old bed sheets so the rest of the bike is covered and I can re-paint while the tank is still on the bike.  I use the same low gloss black as ProTeal and it blends great.   I'm not as tidy at gas stops I guess so Ive resprayed several times.
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2006, 10:57:30 AM »
for extra laughs--from you buddy who should be standing nearby watching--put a cloth around the hole to protect the tank, then promptly dump a bunch down the other side of the tank.
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2006, 10:57:57 AM »
 - if you have a rag or paper towel right there in your hand it seems to work pretty well just wiping up...
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2006, 11:06:13 AM »
i picked up a can of POR-15's high temp paint to do the headers on my VFR. sprayed it on in my booth according to their instructions.

in short, i'm not happy with how it's held up.  looked great when i put it on, but it very quickly lost all qualities that would fall under 'attractive'.

it seems to protect the headers fairly well (not as well as i'd like) - but it faded fast.  knowing what i know now, i'd send them out to a company like jet-hot and get them coated properly (that POR-15 paint wasn't cheap either).  for now i'm going to re-paint them with the POR-15 stuff since i have some left over and they need to be touched up where an exhaust clamp came loose and scraped some of the paint off.

most off the rattle can 'high temp' paint will not last more than a couple weeks when applied to headers.  not worth the effort - given how they'll end up.  i'd advise either wrapping them (don't care too much for that look myself) or send them out to get properly coated.

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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2006, 11:42:00 AM »
i picked up a can of POR-15's high temp paint to do the headers on my VFR. sprayed it on in my booth according to their instructions.

in short, i'm not happy with how it's held up.  looked great when i put it on, but it very quickly lost all qualities that would fall under 'attractive'.

it seems to protect the headers fairly well (not as well as i'd like) - but it faded fast.  knowing what i know now, i'd send them out to a company like jet-hot and get them coated properly (that POR-15 paint wasn't cheap either).  for now i'm going to re-paint them with the POR-15 stuff since i have some left over and they need to be touched up where an exhaust clamp came loose and scraped some of the paint off.

most off the rattle can 'high temp' paint will not last more than a couple weeks when applied to headers.  not worth the effort - given how they'll end up.  i'd advise either wrapping them (don't care too much for that look myself) or send them out to get properly coated.

How does powdercoating hold up on em, and are the adverse affects to powdercoating them?
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2006, 11:59:56 AM »
i picked up a can of POR-15's high temp paint to do the headers on my VFR. sprayed it on in my booth according to their instructions.

in short, i'm not happy with how it's held up.  looked great when i put it on, but it very quickly lost all qualities that would fall under 'attractive'.

it seems to protect the headers fairly well (not as well as i'd like) - but it faded fast.  knowing what i know now, i'd send them out to a company like jet-hot and get them coated properly (that POR-15 paint wasn't cheap either).  for now i'm going to re-paint them with the POR-15 stuff since i have some left over and they need to be touched up where an exhaust clamp came loose and scraped some of the paint off.

most off the rattle can 'high temp' paint will not last more than a couple weeks when applied to headers.  not worth the effort - given how they'll end up.  i'd advise either wrapping them (don't care too much for that look myself) or send them out to get properly coated.

How does powdercoating hold up on em, and are the adverse affects to powdercoating them?

Powdercoating do not take kindly to heat.

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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2006, 12:09:06 PM »
Powdercoating = Does not like heat
CeramicCoating = Made for high heat applications
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2006, 12:09:54 PM »
Powdercoating = Does not like heat
CeramicCoating = Made for high heat applications
Alright, i'll look into cramic.
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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2006, 12:10:52 PM »
yeah, it's not powdercoating.

i know of several people who have gone this route with great looking and lasting results: http://www.jet-hot.com/Pages/coatings.html

i'm not sure exactly what's in their coatings... but it seems to work. that's what i'd do if i was doing it again (wish i'd gone that route originally).

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Re: Hi Temp Gloss paint (rattlecans)
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2006, 12:16:32 PM »
yeah, it's not powdercoating.

i know of several people who have gone this route with great looking and lasting results: http://www.jet-hot.com/Pages/coatings.html

i'm not sure exactly what's in their coatings... but it seems to work. that's what i'd do if i was doing it again (wish i'd gone that route originally).

That's cool stuff.. But why the hell hasn't anyone made gloss black for exhausts??
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