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Offline Schnell

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Top triple clamp D washers
« on: May 27, 2013, 02:52:46 PM »
I'm guessing these are under the nuts of the bolts that tighten the clamps at the top of the fork tubes.
Is that correct? Should my 750K5 have them?
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2013, 03:38:32 PM »
They fit into the gap on the clamp like this:






It's notorious for the clamp to crack if you leave them out; good move installing them!
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2013, 05:34:41 PM »
Thank you for the pictures!

Actually, I don't have them! Bike is new to me, they weren't there when I got it.
I will put some in for sure.

Question though: will the clamp be tight enough with them blocking the squeeze?
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2013, 05:38:32 PM »
Yes it will be tight enough. Plus you have clamping also taking place on the lower tree too. Without them the clamp will break and then you are in a very bad spot. Upper trees not broke are getting few and far between to find.
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2013, 05:57:40 PM »
Exactly how thick are they?
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2013, 08:14:01 PM »
SOme guys have made them using standard washers and a grinder
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2013, 08:46:31 PM »
I was thinking they are also on the fork tube clamp portion of the upper tree as well?
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2013, 08:58:50 PM »
Thank you for the pictures!

Actually, I don't have them! Bike is new to me, they weren't there when I got it.
I will put some in for sure.

Question though: will the clamp be tight enough with them blocking the squeeze?
If yours are missing I would suggest carefully inspecting for cracks in the tree. I'm not sure on the thickness but I imagine someone here has some loose ones to mic and you could use regular washers the same size.
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2013, 09:01:35 PM »
X2 on getting the thickness correct, Hopefully someone will have a loose one to mic.
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2013, 09:19:10 PM »
let me check.....



looks like 2mm thick





the straight length seems to be 11 mm long



overall length 11.6mm




sorry for the super crappy ruler but i know where the edge starts unlike the wood rulers  ;D
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 09:23:56 PM »
let me check.....



looks like 0.2mm thick





the straight length seems to be 1.1mm long



overall length 1.6mm




sorry for the super crappy ruler but i know where the edge starts unlike the wood rulers  ;D
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2013, 09:39:27 PM »
wait for it!!!! i forgot i bought this and have never used it. put on your lab goggles we are going scientific!!

width-



overall length



length w/ cut section



cut length



all measurements have a variance of +/- 0.05mm
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2013, 09:41:52 PM »
ya im super bored but happy i can help :D
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2013, 04:06:42 AM »
On a thread I posted looking where to buy some recently because these are unavailable now from the dealers,I was reminded that the thickness is very close to the washers that are used under the head nuts on the 750 engines.I compared and they are very close and can be ground and modded to work.
  Saw some for sale once on the web but looked for awhile and could not turn them up again. If you see some out there could you post a link please.

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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2013, 06:07:23 AM »
RSchaefer: I was thinking they are also on the fork tube clamp portion of the upper tree as well?

The D washers are only on the top fork tree clamp. None on the lower fork tree clamp.
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2013, 06:28:46 AM »
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=72765.0

Check this out.
Just type in top clamp d washer. and look for any sohc answers. Same for any thing you need to know ;)
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2013, 05:01:16 PM »
ya im super bored but happy i can help :D

Thank you very much for that!
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2013, 08:39:57 PM »
I believe Hondaman's book says they are .090 thick.
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2013, 04:35:43 AM »
These appear to have been eliminated on 77 & 78 models (both 550 and 750) per parts fiche for some reason.

Anyone know why?
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2013, 04:42:50 AM »
They aren't fitted on my 79 550. No sign of cracks.
I use a torque wrench so they won't be over tightened by me, but I doubt all of the previous owners did.

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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2013, 04:51:02 AM »
These appear to have been eliminated on 77 & 78 models (both 550 and 750) per parts fiche for some reason.

Anyone know why?
The are of a different design.Maybe too many were breaking and they made an upgrade.

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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2013, 05:11:23 AM »
Thanks for referencing my thread on making your own. IT has thickness dimensions etc. A cyl head nut washer is closest.

Do not make them from standard washers. They are too thin and the bridge will still crack.

At some point, they were discontinued as the bridge was redesigned. Check a micro fishy for your model.

Here it is agaiin if you missed it:
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=72765.0
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2013, 05:17:53 AM »
Hmm, looks like my cb500 is missing them as well. Am I reading the fiche right that I only need two on the fork clamps? Or will I need three?
http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb500-500-four-k0-usa_model459/partslist/F++03.html#results

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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2013, 05:25:11 AM »
Hmm, looks like my cb500 is missing them as well. Am I reading the fiche right that I only need two on the fork clamps? Or will I need three?
http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb500-500-four-k0-usa_model459/partslist/F++03.html#results

Yes only two one on each side. Where do you think a third one would go?? It is part #9
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Re: Top triple clamp D washers
« Reply #24 on: May 29, 2013, 06:03:00 AM »
Wasn't sure if I needed one in the gap on the center clamp (just next to part #18). There's a gap of roughly the same size there as well.