Topic: Painting a tank

[davidtime]

I am working on painting everything and I want to get some options on paint that will not get damaged by gas. I am going to be using rattle cans. Is there a clear coat that does this?

[harisuluv]

There is a 2k rattle can clear you can by. Punch a button in the bottom and it releases the second part. Your base paint still needs to be compatible with it.

You can get it a lot of places if you google it. Runs about $20 a can if I remember correct.

[davidtime]

Thats what I have been thinking of using, I also saw that you can buy colors in those cans as well. The only reason I haven't got it is because it says it takes 2-3 cans. Thats pricey.

[harisuluv]

The good stuff always is.

[RAFster122s]

Two cans are usually enough for side covers and tank if you aren't wasteful in using it. It is cheaper than repainting the tank, painting it twice or more.

[Duanob]

Official name is Spray Max 2K when you google it. I got the best price from R and K Paints online. I was at our local WESCO recently and asked them about adding color to it and they said you can't. But they can add any color to a spray can like laquer or enamel. I prefer laquer. The primer coat should be a good quality two part as well. There are lots of posts on painting bikes here and else where. There was a member named Kong that has a great write up in the FAQ section.

Any body heard from Kong in the past year or so? He was a master of the rattle can job!

[xsmooth69x]

lots of automotive clear coats from homedepo or some auto parts store 

that's what i did and it worked.

[davidtime]

So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

[Vreihenmotor6]

spray max 2k a year later


no real complaints, I never did wet sand it after so there is a bit of orange peel when you get up close, but my bikes more a 10 footer anyway and I'm a bit lazy

[70CB750]

Here is a excellent howto:

http://nezapomente.cz/zobraz/natirani_ruzovehu_tanku

[davidtime]

spray max 2k a year later


no real complaints, I never did wet sand it after so there is a bit of orange peel when you get up close, but my bikes more a 10 footer anyway and I'm a bit lazy

Looks good and thanks I now know what a 10 footer is.

[Duanob]

spray max 2k a year later


no real complaints, I never did wet sand it after so there is a bit of orange peel when you get up close, but my bikes more a 10 footer anyway and I'm a bit lazy

its never too late! 1500 wet/dry maybe one more coat of Spraymax 2K and then use Meguiars anti-swirl compound and a yellow pad buffer. It will become a 1 footer! 

[Duanob]

lots of automotive clear coats from homedepo or some auto parts store 

that's what i did and it worked.

I will never use Rustoleum Clear again, that stuff is crap! I used it on some boat parts. Within a month it was yellowing and within 2 months it was crackling and peeling and holding dirt and grease everywhere. Now I have to remove it, and repaint everything I covered with it.

[Duanob]

So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.

[davidtime]

lots of automotive clear coats from homedepo or some auto parts store 

that's what i did and it worked.

I will never use Rustoleum Clear again, that stuff is crap! I used it on some boat parts. Within a month it was yellowing and within 2 months it was crackling and peeling and holding dirt and grease everywhere. Now I have to remove it, and repaint everything I covered with it.

Did you use the acrylic enamel? I used it on my frame so I really hopes it holds up. It says non yellowing so I hope that is the case. It is the automotive stuff that you used? Also was it in salt water?

[davidtime]

So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.

Can you use a more budget friendly lacquer and use the 2k clear over it and have it turn out good?

[Vreihenmotor6]

spray max 2k a year later


no real complaints, I never did wet sand it after so there is a bit of orange peel when you get up close, but my bikes more a 10 footer anyway and I'm a bit lazy

its never too late! 1500 wet/dry maybe one more coat of Spraymax 2K and then use Meguiars anti-swirl compound and a yellow pad buffer. It will become a 1 footer! 

I know, but I want to ride it! not take it apart again

maybe in the off season...

I used the clear/ paint combo, I have an unused can of clear for if/ when I wet sand it and apply decals, then clear over them

[lucky]

Thats what I have been thinking of using, I also saw that you can buy colors in those cans as well. The only reason I haven't got it is because it says it takes 2-3 cans. Thats pricey.

I bought a can of the clear and put it over Rustoleum. It was compatible.
I paint my gas tank and put 3 heavy coats on it. I still had 3/4 of a can.
IT does not run,  and you can really pile on the clear.
I had nothing else to paint .  3 cans to paint a gas tank fenders and side covers? No way! LOL..lol   Even the 5 gallon 1978 gas tank would only take 1/2 can max.
One can will work.

[davidtime]

Thats what I have been thinking of using, I also saw that you can buy colors in those cans as well. The only reason I haven't got it is because it says it takes 2-3 cans. Thats pricey.

I bought a can of the clear and put it over Rustoleum. It was compatible.
I paint my gas tank and put 3 heavy coats on it. I still had 3/4 of a can.
IT does not run,  and you can really pile on the clear.
I had nothing else to paint .  3 cans to paint a gas tank fenders and side covers? No way! LOL..lol   Even the 5 gallon 1978 gas tank would only take 1/2 can max.
One can will work.

Awesome that makes me feel better. I would hate to not get enough to do the whole thing.

What rustoleum paint did you use?

[78whiteorbs]

So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.

That would be me Duanoob and it wasn't lacquer, it was the same urethane based automotive grade 2k paint as the clear . Alotta people clear over a spray bomb(enamel) and it works fine however its like laying a cement foundation over a wooden deck. Ever see those shaolin monks demonstrations ( or karate kid 2) where they bust the ice blocks on top and below . Point is it is the weakest link and it isn't as tough at all as using the old paint finish as a base.  You can call 66autocolor  and they will add any color code from any vehicle you want into the can . I have done some paint jobs no one would believe from those preloaded cans . Here is my thread on the 18$ paint job. Check it out for yourself and yes it looks just as good today as ever.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=98350.0
BTW here is a blog from 66autocolor where you can see another sohc'er did a sweet job on a cb550 SS. The RD350 tank is my handywork!
http://www.66autocolor.blogspot.com/     
I had an old tank that I buffed a spot and use a paint camera at a local body shop. Came up from there data base as Boeing 747 Orange! 

About to do a cb750 tank in a Honda Civic Sapphire Metallic Blue complete with the decals from the planet blue era. I find myself looking at cars a lot more now just for the colors I like . All you need is a make and model to look up and you can get it in a can . I badly want to do a Toyota Corolla Spruce Mica Green eventually. Painting is fun and gratifying .Let the world be your crayon box. Also I have no affiliation with 66autocolor, I am just your average married guy with a 9-5 and a love for projects big and small.

[78whiteorbs]

BTW not related to tank painting but general cheap  blingyness it is -

pretty shocks for pretty cheap - bringing stuff back from the dead...

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=122163.0

[jeff kushner]

I managed this paint job with paint injected into a rattle can at a paint wholesaler and a can of Spraymax 2K.....it looks like liquid glass was poured over it!!!

jeff

[davidtime]

So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.

That would be me Duanoob and it wasn't lacquer, it was the same urethane based automotive grade 2k paint as the clear . Alotta people clear over a spray bomb(enamel) and it works fine however its like laying a cement foundation over a wooden deck. Ever see those shaolin monks demonstrations ( or karate kid 2) where they bust the ice blocks on top and below . Point is it is the weakest link and it isn't as tough at all as using the old paint finish as a base.  You can call 66autocolor  and they will add any color code from any vehicle you want into the can . I have done some paint jobs no one would believe from those preloaded cans . Here is my thread on the 18$ paint job. Check it out for yourself and yes it looks just as good today as ever.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=98350.0
BTW here is a blog from 66autocolor where you can see another sohc'er did a sweet job on a cb550 SS. The RD350 tank is my handywork!
http://www.66autocolor.blogspot.com/     
I had an old tank that I buffed a spot and use a paint camera at a local body shop. Came up from there data base as Boeing 747 Orange! 

About to do a cb750 tank in a Honda Civic Sapphire Metallic Blue complete with the decals from the planet blue era. I find myself looking at cars a lot more now just for the colors I like . All you need is a make and model to look up and you can get it in a can . I badly want to do a Toyota Corolla Spruce Mica Green eventually. Painting is fun and gratifying .Let the world be your crayon box. Also I have no affiliation with 66autocolor, I am just your average married guy with a 9-5 and a love for projects big and small.

Thank you,its nice to know that its lasted this long. Now you usedthe ingle stage with the color and clear in one right?

[Duanob]

So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.

Can you use a more budget friendly lacquer and use the 2k clear over it and have it turn out good?

It turned out excellent! Laquer is easy to use and fine sand with 1500 grit wet/dry. As long as you have a good primer coat to hold to the metal. I think it was Kong thta suggests 2 part primer as well. Then the clear goes on over the color. I did a couple of coats of that. It sands well too then buff. I was stunned and amazed that I did such a nice paint job. And its 2 years old and still looks like new. Of course I put the bike in a garage for the winter and use a cover always.

[Duanob]

lots of automotive clear coats from homedepo or some auto parts store 

that's what i did and it worked.

I will never use Rustoleum Clear again, that stuff is crap! I used it on some boat parts. Within a month it was yellowing and within 2 months it was crackling and peeling and holding dirt and grease everywhere. Now I have to remove it, and repaint everything I covered with it.

Did you use the acrylic enamel? I used it on my frame so I really hopes it holds up. It says non yellowing so I hope that is the case. It is the automotive stuff that you used? Also was it in salt water?

Yes that was it. It should've lasted longer than a month. The motor well doesn't get salt water in it. Just moisture. I would use the spraymax for clear.

[davidtime]

So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.

Can you use a more budget friendly lacquer and use the 2k clear over it and have it turn out good?

It turned out excellent! Laquer is easy to use and fine sand with 1500 grit wet/dry. As long as you have a good primer coat to hold to the metal. I think it was Kong thta suggests 2 part primer as well. Then the clear goes on over the color. I did a couple of coats of that. It sands well too then buff. I was stunned and amazed that I did such a nice paint job. And its 2 years old and still looks like new. Of course I put the bike in a garage for the winter and use a cover always.

I'm going to be using 2 colors for the tank and the seat cowl so it should be interesting. I have never done 2 colors before but to say I did my own graphics will be worth it. I don't want my first time to be done with $20 a can paint because that could get expensive.

[Duanob]

So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.

That would be me Duanoob and it wasn't lacquer, it was the same urethane based automotive grade 2k paint as the clear . Alotta people clear over a spray bomb(enamel) and it works fine however its like laying a cement foundation over a wooden deck. Ever see those shaolin monks demonstrations ( or karate kid 2) where they bust the ice blocks on top and below . Point is it is the weakest link and it isn't as tough at all as using the old paint finish as a base.  You can call 66autocolor  and they will add any color code from any vehicle you want into the can . I have done some paint jobs no one would believe from those preloaded cans . Here is my thread on the 18$ paint job. Check it out for yourself and yes it looks just as good today as ever.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=98350.0
BTW here is a blog from 66autocolor where you can see another sohc'er did a sweet job on a cb550 SS. The RD350 tank is my handywork!
http://www.66autocolor.blogspot.com/     
I had an old tank that I buffed a spot and use a paint camera at a local body shop. Came up from there data base as Boeing 747 Orange! 

About to do a cb750 tank in a Honda Civic Sapphire Metallic Blue complete with the decals from the planet blue era. I find myself looking at cars a lot more now just for the colors I like . All you need is a make and model to look up and you can get it in a can . I badly want to do a Toyota Corolla Spruce Mica Green eventually. Painting is fun and gratifying .Let the world be your crayon box. Also I have no affiliation with 66autocolor, I am just your average married guy with a 9-5 and a love for projects big and small.

That's fine dude, nice job and all. But I'm still not buying your $18 paint job. It cost me $29 from 66 just to have colored spramax delivered to me. Then you don't include primer, sand paper, buff pads, polishing compounds, decals/ striping, cleaning compounds, paint removers, de-rusting products, etc, etc, etc.

Unless you work in or own a paint shop, it just a bit misleading that's all. The average backyard sohc4 owner like myself has to buy all that stuff and it adds up to a lot more than $18, that's all.

[78whiteorbs]

Davidtime- yes all in one can. It senseless to use any other type of paint than urethane. 2k which is automotive grade( not meant for model cars and such) especially when you can get it in any color and there is no buffing. And its all in one stage so takes less time. Really a no brainer in my book. You can you use whatever you like and with the proper technic and care. Get great results but how long they last is based on how good the substance is. Get it 2k in a can and be done with it. Paint it in one step and admire the results everytime you look at your bike. That's been my routine.

[78whiteorbs]

Duanob- pretty sure I addressed your skepticism in my thread. Perhaps you should read it again. I didn't. Use any of the forementioned items- it was single stage.. Aside from sanding the surface. With some 3-400 grit I didn't use any other materials. If you don't like the title of my thread feel free not to post your cricisms. Contribute something meaningful I tead of criticizing someone elses job. Its just not needed.  The only reason I posted in this thread was to correct you were you in the fact that I used urethane single stage 2k paint with the color mixed in NOT what you stated. I am not a rich man and if I find a way to save a buck I like to pass on

[RAFster122s]

The SprayMax 2K is a urethane clear which is nearly impervious to fuel staining and damage. The Spraymax 1K is not a urethane but is a single part premixed paint like a conventional spray bomb. The difference is the superior spray pattern provided by the nozzle and the good quality paint being used.

If the underlying paint/primer is properly cured the SprayMax 2K is compatible with most paints.  3 coats gives a very nice finish. Once activated you will need to use the SprayMax 2K can within about 24 hours for best results.
As with most finishes, the first coat of the clear being misted on tends to be a safe method of application so the subsequent coats can be applied safely. A wet first coat could put too much solvent on the previous color coat causing it to react if the SprayMax 2K solvents in the clear would normally attack it.

[davidtime]

This one here shows to be clear, base and hardener all in one. The 1k needs the clear. This one has the 2k paint material in it.

http://www.66autocolor.com/SprayMax_2K_Aerosol_Auto_Paint_by_U_S_Chemical_p/spm-mix2k.htm