Author Topic: Painting a tank  (Read 7019 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline davidtime

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 449
Painting a tank
« on: May 29, 2013, 06:02:11 PM »
I am working on painting everything and I want to get some options on paint that will not get damaged by gas. I am going to be using rattle cans. Is there a clear coat that does this?

Offline harisuluv

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,009
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2013, 07:18:39 PM »
There is a 2k rattle can clear you can by. Punch a button in the bottom and it releases the second part. Your base paint still needs to be compatible with it.

You can get it a lot of places if you google it. Runs about $20 a can if I remember correct.

Offline davidtime

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 449
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2013, 07:29:41 PM »
Thats what I have been thinking of using, I also saw that you can buy colors in those cans as well. The only reason I haven't got it is because it says it takes 2-3 cans. Thats pricey.

Offline harisuluv

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,009
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2013, 07:34:18 PM »
The good stuff always is. :)

Offline RAFster122s

  • I feel like a really really
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,369
  • SOHC4 member # 2605
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 07:37:07 PM »
Two cans are usually enough for side covers and tank if you aren't wasteful in using it. It is cheaper than repainting the tank, painting it twice or more.

David- back in the desert SW!

Offline Duanob

  • Bold Timer
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,009
  • Gotcha!
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2013, 08:31:06 PM »
Official name is Spray Max 2K when you google it. I got the best price from R and K Paints online. I was at our local WESCO recently and asked them about adding color to it and they said you can't. But they can add any color to a spray can like laquer or enamel. I prefer laquer. The primer coat should be a good quality two part as well. There are lots of posts on painting bikes here and else where. There was a member named Kong that has a great write up in the FAQ section.

Any body heard from Kong in the past year or so? He was a master of the rattle can job!
"Just because you flush a boatload of money down the toilet, doesn't make the toilet worth more",  My Stepfather the Unknown Poet

1974 CB360T
1976 CB550K2 Resurrected
1976 CB550F2 Barn Find
1979 CX500 VG "HONDA-GUZZI"
2007 Moto Guzzi Breva 750ie
2015 BMW F700GS
Another 1976 CB550K Cafe?

  __o
_- \_<,
(*) /' (*)

Offline xsmooth69x

  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,621
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2013, 08:36:16 PM »
lots of automotive clear coats from homedepo or some auto parts store  :P

that's what i did and it worked.
1975 CB550 (FINISHED?!?!?)
first motorcycle ever!!! ow and i dont know how to ride it either :D

raw rust rice venti quad shot cafe racing latte project aka my build..... http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=88853.0

black and white equation godzilla chalkboard 
1972 cb750 - next in line for some <3

Offline davidtime

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 449
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013, 08:42:09 AM »
So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

Offline Vreihenmotor6

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 147
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 09:33:20 AM »
spray max 2k a year later


no real complaints, I never did wet sand it after so there is a bit of orange peel when you get up close, but my bikes more a 10 footer anyway and I'm a bit lazy


Offline 70CB750

  • Labor omnia vincit improbus.
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 14,805
  • Northern Virginia
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2013, 10:27:49 AM »
Prokop
_______________
Pure Gas - find ethanol free gas station near you

I love it when parts come together.

Dorothy - my CB750
CB750K3F - The Red
Sidecar


CB900C

2006 KLR650

Offline davidtime

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 449
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2013, 10:48:03 AM »
spray max 2k a year later


no real complaints, I never did wet sand it after so there is a bit of orange peel when you get up close, but my bikes more a 10 footer anyway and I'm a bit lazy

Looks good and thanks I now know what a 10 footer is.

Offline Duanob

  • Bold Timer
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,009
  • Gotcha!
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2013, 12:28:26 PM »
spray max 2k a year later


no real complaints, I never did wet sand it after so there is a bit of orange peel when you get up close, but my bikes more a 10 footer anyway and I'm a bit lazy

its never too late! 1500 wet/dry maybe one more coat of Spraymax 2K and then use Meguiars anti-swirl compound and a yellow pad buffer. It will become a 1 footer!  ;)
"Just because you flush a boatload of money down the toilet, doesn't make the toilet worth more",  My Stepfather the Unknown Poet

1974 CB360T
1976 CB550K2 Resurrected
1976 CB550F2 Barn Find
1979 CX500 VG "HONDA-GUZZI"
2007 Moto Guzzi Breva 750ie
2015 BMW F700GS
Another 1976 CB550K Cafe?

  __o
_- \_<,
(*) /' (*)

Offline Duanob

  • Bold Timer
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,009
  • Gotcha!
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2013, 12:31:12 PM »
lots of automotive clear coats from homedepo or some auto parts store  :P

that's what i did and it worked.
I will never use Rustoleum Clear again, that stuff is crap! I used it on some boat parts. Within a month it was yellowing and within 2 months it was crackling and peeling and holding dirt and grease everywhere. Now I have to remove it, and repaint everything I covered with it.
"Just because you flush a boatload of money down the toilet, doesn't make the toilet worth more",  My Stepfather the Unknown Poet

1974 CB360T
1976 CB550K2 Resurrected
1976 CB550F2 Barn Find
1979 CX500 VG "HONDA-GUZZI"
2007 Moto Guzzi Breva 750ie
2015 BMW F700GS
Another 1976 CB550K Cafe?

  __o
_- \_<,
(*) /' (*)

Offline Duanob

  • Bold Timer
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,009
  • Gotcha!
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2013, 12:37:21 PM »
So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.
"Just because you flush a boatload of money down the toilet, doesn't make the toilet worth more",  My Stepfather the Unknown Poet

1974 CB360T
1976 CB550K2 Resurrected
1976 CB550F2 Barn Find
1979 CX500 VG "HONDA-GUZZI"
2007 Moto Guzzi Breva 750ie
2015 BMW F700GS
Another 1976 CB550K Cafe?

  __o
_- \_<,
(*) /' (*)

Offline davidtime

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 449
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2013, 12:38:47 PM »
lots of automotive clear coats from homedepo or some auto parts store  :P

that's what i did and it worked.
I will never use Rustoleum Clear again, that stuff is crap! I used it on some boat parts. Within a month it was yellowing and within 2 months it was crackling and peeling and holding dirt and grease everywhere. Now I have to remove it, and repaint everything I covered with it.

Did you use the acrylic enamel? I used it on my frame so I really hopes it holds up. It says non yellowing so I hope that is the case. It is the automotive stuff that you used? Also was it in salt water?

Offline davidtime

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 449
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2013, 12:44:01 PM »
So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.

Can you use a more budget friendly lacquer and use the 2k clear over it and have it turn out good?

Offline Vreihenmotor6

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 147
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2013, 12:55:32 PM »
spray max 2k a year later


no real complaints, I never did wet sand it after so there is a bit of orange peel when you get up close, but my bikes more a 10 footer anyway and I'm a bit lazy

its never too late! 1500 wet/dry maybe one more coat of Spraymax 2K and then use Meguiars anti-swirl compound and a yellow pad buffer. It will become a 1 footer!  ;)

I know, but I want to ride it! not take it apart again

maybe in the off season...

I used the clear/ paint combo, I have an unused can of clear for if/ when I wet sand it and apply decals, then clear over them

Offline lucky

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,717
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2013, 07:31:12 PM »
Thats what I have been thinking of using, I also saw that you can buy colors in those cans as well. The only reason I haven't got it is because it says it takes 2-3 cans. Thats pricey.

I bought a can of the clear and put it over Rustoleum. It was compatible.
I paint my gas tank and put 3 heavy coats on it. I still had 3/4 of a can.
IT does not run,  and you can really pile on the clear.
I had nothing else to paint .  3 cans to paint a gas tank fenders and side covers? No way! LOL..lol   Even the 5 gallon 1978 gas tank would only take 1/2 can max.
One can will work.

Offline davidtime

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 449
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2013, 07:41:12 PM »
Thats what I have been thinking of using, I also saw that you can buy colors in those cans as well. The only reason I haven't got it is because it says it takes 2-3 cans. Thats pricey.

I bought a can of the clear and put it over Rustoleum. It was compatible.
I paint my gas tank and put 3 heavy coats on it. I still had 3/4 of a can.
IT does not run,  and you can really pile on the clear.
I had nothing else to paint .  3 cans to paint a gas tank fenders and side covers? No way! LOL..lol   Even the 5 gallon 1978 gas tank would only take 1/2 can max.
One can will work.

Awesome that makes me feel better. I would hate to not get enough to do the whole thing.

What rustoleum paint did you use?

Offline 78whiteorbs

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,418
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2013, 08:48:58 PM »
So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.

That would be me Duanoob and it wasn't lacquer, it was the same urethane based automotive grade 2k paint as the clear . Alotta people clear over a spray bomb(enamel) and it works fine however its like laying a cement foundation over a wooden deck. Ever see those shaolin monks demonstrations ( or karate kid 2) where they bust the ice blocks on top and below . Point is it is the weakest link and it isn't as tough at all as using the old paint finish as a base.  You can call 66autocolor  and they will add any color code from any vehicle you want into the can . I have done some paint jobs no one would believe from those preloaded cans . Here is my thread on the 18$ paint job. Check it out for yourself and yes it looks just as good today as ever.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=98350.0
BTW here is a blog from 66autocolor where you can see another sohc'er did a sweet job on a cb550 SS. The RD350 tank is my handywork!
http://www.66autocolor.blogspot.com/     
I had an old tank that I buffed a spot and use a paint camera at a local body shop. Came up from there data base as Boeing 747 Orange! 

About to do a cb750 tank in a Honda Civic Sapphire Metallic Blue complete with the decals from the planet blue era. I find myself looking at cars a lot more now just for the colors I like . All you need is a make and model to look up and you can get it in a can . I badly want to do a Toyota Corolla Spruce Mica Green eventually. Painting is fun and gratifying .Let the world be your crayon box. Also I have no affiliation with 66autocolor, I am just your average married guy with a 9-5 and a love for projects big and small.
« Last Edit: May 30, 2013, 08:51:34 PM by 78whiteorbs »

Offline 78whiteorbs

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,418
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2013, 09:21:55 PM »
BTW not related to tank painting but general cheap  blingyness it is -

pretty shocks for pretty cheap - bringing stuff back from the dead...

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=122163.0

Offline jeff kushner

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 40
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2013, 03:50:09 AM »
I managed this paint job with paint injected into a rattle can at a paint wholesaler and a can of Spraymax 2K.....it looks like liquid glass was poured over it!!!

jeff
Present: VStrom 1000 K7 modded for touring, Stock: '73 CB350, '74 RD350,’75 GT550, '75 H2 100% original, Modded: ‘75 GT550 restored & ported, '82 Yamaha 650Turbo running 18PSI project list:'72 &'75 H1's, last completed: highly modified '74 H2B-"VEG"and new-to-me CB400F for play. Bike pics here(lots of albums): http://s808.photobucket.com/user/jeffkushner1/library/?sort=3&page=1

Offline davidtime

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 449
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2013, 07:43:57 AM »
So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.

That would be me Duanoob and it wasn't lacquer, it was the same urethane based automotive grade 2k paint as the clear . Alotta people clear over a spray bomb(enamel) and it works fine however its like laying a cement foundation over a wooden deck. Ever see those shaolin monks demonstrations ( or karate kid 2) where they bust the ice blocks on top and below . Point is it is the weakest link and it isn't as tough at all as using the old paint finish as a base.  You can call 66autocolor  and they will add any color code from any vehicle you want into the can . I have done some paint jobs no one would believe from those preloaded cans . Here is my thread on the 18$ paint job. Check it out for yourself and yes it looks just as good today as ever.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=98350.0
BTW here is a blog from 66autocolor where you can see another sohc'er did a sweet job on a cb550 SS. The RD350 tank is my handywork!
http://www.66autocolor.blogspot.com/     
I had an old tank that I buffed a spot and use a paint camera at a local body shop. Came up from there data base as Boeing 747 Orange! 

About to do a cb750 tank in a Honda Civic Sapphire Metallic Blue complete with the decals from the planet blue era. I find myself looking at cars a lot more now just for the colors I like . All you need is a make and model to look up and you can get it in a can . I badly want to do a Toyota Corolla Spruce Mica Green eventually. Painting is fun and gratifying .Let the world be your crayon box. Also I have no affiliation with 66autocolor, I am just your average married guy with a 9-5 and a love for projects big and small.

Thank you,its nice to know that its lasted this long. Now you usedthe ingle stage with the color and clear in one right?

Offline Duanob

  • Bold Timer
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,009
  • Gotcha!
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2013, 08:23:02 AM »
So I found this site for the single stage spraymax 2k in colors and it runs the same price as the clear alone. It is base and clear in one can. I am sold on this color. I am curious if anyone has ever used the colored premixed 2k.

http://www.66autocolor.com/Spray_Max_Aerosol_White_Gold_Metallic_p/spm-pwl.htm

I dunno, it seems to defeats the purpose of the 2 stage's UV and chemical resistance. I would have to coat in the 2 stage clear anyway. Save some money and use premixed color laquer in a rattle can. I know a member did that here a couple of years ago and claimed an $18 dollar paint job but I would have to guess how long it lasted.

Can you use a more budget friendly lacquer and use the 2k clear over it and have it turn out good?

It turned out excellent! Laquer is easy to use and fine sand with 1500 grit wet/dry. As long as you have a good primer coat to hold to the metal. I think it was Kong thta suggests 2 part primer as well. Then the clear goes on over the color. I did a couple of coats of that. It sands well too then buff. I was stunned and amazed that I did such a nice paint job. And its 2 years old and still looks like new. Of course I put the bike in a garage for the winter and use a cover always.
"Just because you flush a boatload of money down the toilet, doesn't make the toilet worth more",  My Stepfather the Unknown Poet

1974 CB360T
1976 CB550K2 Resurrected
1976 CB550F2 Barn Find
1979 CX500 VG "HONDA-GUZZI"
2007 Moto Guzzi Breva 750ie
2015 BMW F700GS
Another 1976 CB550K Cafe?

  __o
_- \_<,
(*) /' (*)

Offline Duanob

  • Bold Timer
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 4,009
  • Gotcha!
Re: Painting a tank
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2013, 08:29:39 AM »
lots of automotive clear coats from homedepo or some auto parts store  :P

that's what i did and it worked.
I will never use Rustoleum Clear again, that stuff is crap! I used it on some boat parts. Within a month it was yellowing and within 2 months it was crackling and peeling and holding dirt and grease everywhere. Now I have to remove it, and repaint everything I covered with it.


Did you use the acrylic enamel? I used it on my frame so I really hopes it holds up. It says non yellowing so I hope that is the case. It is the automotive stuff that you used? Also was it in salt water?

Yes that was it. It should've lasted longer than a month. The motor well doesn't get salt water in it. Just moisture. I would use the spraymax for clear.
"Just because you flush a boatload of money down the toilet, doesn't make the toilet worth more",  My Stepfather the Unknown Poet

1974 CB360T
1976 CB550K2 Resurrected
1976 CB550F2 Barn Find
1979 CX500 VG "HONDA-GUZZI"
2007 Moto Guzzi Breva 750ie
2015 BMW F700GS
Another 1976 CB550K Cafe?

  __o
_- \_<,
(*) /' (*)