Author Topic: '78 carbs on a '75?  (Read 1109 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Dr. Noisewater

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 255
'78 carbs on a '75?
« on: June 03, 2013, 09:41:46 AM »
Hey guys, I've been trying to resurrect my '75 cb550f and finding carbs has been quite an issue. I have found some carbs from a '78 that are perfect. My question is what all would need to be done, if anything, to get these running properly on my '75? Thanks!

Offline Bankerdanny

  • Eventually I will be old enough in reality to be
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,626
  • Endeavor to persevere
Re: '78 carbs on a '75?
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2013, 10:04:31 AM »
The '78's use a different throttle and choke linkage. They are also set up a bit leaner than the '76 and earlier bikes. They are also a single gas line feed instead of a dual line.

It's not an ideal switch, but I'm sure you can use them. Just make sure to get the whole rack assembly, not just the carbs.
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that you never know if they're true" - Abraham Lincoln

Current: '76 CB750F. Previous:  '75 CB550F, 2007 Yamaha Vino 125 Scooter, '75 Harley FXE Superglide, '77 GL1000, '77 CB550k, '68 Suzuki K10 80, '68 Yamaha YR2, '69 BMW R69S, '71 Honda SL175, '02 Royal Enfield Bullet 500, '89 Yamaha FJ1200

Offline lucky

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,717
Re: '78 carbs on a '75?
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 10:11:24 AM »
There are many problems to overcome.
why would you want to do that?

Offline TwoTired

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 21,805
Re: '78 carbs on a '75?
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 10:29:03 AM »
This has been covered before.
78 CB550Ks also have different headers, rubber couplers fore and aft, require a choke cable, and require at least one different throttle cable just to fit onto a 75 CB550F bike.  An extra fuel "T" will alleviate the single fuel inlet on the newer carbs.

Once they are on...
All the fuel metering adjustments are different as well.  Unless you are also fitting the 77-78 exhaust system and air induction components, you will need to change the main jet, find the correct or acceptable slide needle position, and a new pilot screw setting which gives the proper acceleration upon throttle twist.

It not a bad project undertake from the standpoint of learning your machine.  However, if you are looking for a quick and painless fix, this isn't it.
Lloyd... (SOHC4 #11 Original Mail List)
72 500, 74 550, 75 550K, 75 550F, 76 550F, 77 550F X2, 78 550K, 77 750F X2, 78 750F, 79CX500, 85 700SC, GL1100

Those that learn from history are doomed to repeat it by those that don't learn from history.

Offline Dr. Noisewater

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 255
Re: '78 carbs on a '75?
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 11:18:04 AM »
Cool thanks for all the input guys. I guess I'll keep looking. Just to make sure, only 74-76 are completely interchangeable?

Offline Bankerdanny

  • Eventually I will be old enough in reality to be
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,626
  • Endeavor to persevere
Re: '78 carbs on a '75?
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2013, 01:07:10 PM »
The '77 550F also uses the same carbs as your bike.

The '77 550K uses the same carbs as the '78, but the F retained the old style carbs.

So you can look for carbs from any F bike, and the '74-'76 550k's.
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that you never know if they're true" - Abraham Lincoln

Current: '76 CB750F. Previous:  '75 CB550F, 2007 Yamaha Vino 125 Scooter, '75 Harley FXE Superglide, '77 GL1000, '77 CB550k, '68 Suzuki K10 80, '68 Yamaha YR2, '69 BMW R69S, '71 Honda SL175, '02 Royal Enfield Bullet 500, '89 Yamaha FJ1200

Offline TwoTired

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 21,805
Re: '78 carbs on a '75?
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2013, 02:49:10 PM »
If your bike is an F model CB550, and retains the stock air induction and exhaust, then you definitely want carbs from another F model, 75-77.
If the exhaust and/or induction has been modified with aftermarket components, then avoid the F model carbs in favor of the 74 -76 CB550K carbs, for reasons of internal jetting suitability.

069a carbs wer for the F model
022a carbs for the K (except 76 which was 087a)

These are set up numbers stamped on the carb body mount flange, that describe what internal parts and setting they had from the factory.

Be aware that the internal parts and settings could have been altered when serviced since the 70s and the stamped number ignored.
Lloyd... (SOHC4 #11 Original Mail List)
72 500, 74 550, 75 550K, 75 550F, 76 550F, 77 550F X2, 78 550K, 77 750F X2, 78 750F, 79CX500, 85 700SC, GL1100

Those that learn from history are doomed to repeat it by those that don't learn from history.

Offline Bankerdanny

  • Eventually I will be old enough in reality to be
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,626
  • Endeavor to persevere
Re: '78 carbs on a '75?
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2013, 03:04:12 PM »
Shows you what I know. I thought the only difference between the F and the 74-76 K carbs was the jetting.
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that you never know if they're true" - Abraham Lincoln

Current: '76 CB750F. Previous:  '75 CB550F, 2007 Yamaha Vino 125 Scooter, '75 Harley FXE Superglide, '77 GL1000, '77 CB550k, '68 Suzuki K10 80, '68 Yamaha YR2, '69 BMW R69S, '71 Honda SL175, '02 Royal Enfield Bullet 500, '89 Yamaha FJ1200

Offline Dr. Noisewater

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 255
Re: '78 carbs on a '75?
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2013, 04:28:20 PM »
Awesome thanks a lot guys!

Offline TwoTired

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 21,805
Re: '78 carbs on a '75?
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2013, 10:10:20 PM »
Shows you what I know. I thought the only difference between the F and the 74-76 K carbs was the jetting.
In essence, that's true.  But in the details, are some internal part differences and settings to make that effect.
Lloyd... (SOHC4 #11 Original Mail List)
72 500, 74 550, 75 550K, 75 550F, 76 550F, 77 550F X2, 78 550K, 77 750F X2, 78 750F, 79CX500, 85 700SC, GL1100

Those that learn from history are doomed to repeat it by those that don't learn from history.