No matter how unpopular it is, Ethanol is not necessarily a problem..... If it was there would be dead bikes and cars and trucks everywhere.
Actually, there are. But, many don't persist in that "dead" state because they are repaired. I speculate it costs more to repair such a vehicle than any "savings" there would be from the ethanol addition. But, the very people that mandate it's use, benefit from the taxes on repair parts and the income tax paid by the workers who perform the repair. Even better, when the owner gets fed up with high repair bills (already paid), they then buy a newer vehicle as replacement with all the taxes and fees and employment boosting side effects that entails, including the sales and excise taxes.
Show me where they are stacking all the damaged vehicles?
In garages and driveways waiting for repair, and recycle parts yards. Just use google to see all the otherwise undamaged cars sitting about waiting for love or complete destruction.
And there seems to be more misinformation every day.
I can agree to that. And a lot of it is from the lobby groups promoting ethanol made from food that could otherwise be used to reduce world wide famine areas and reduce costs to everyone buying groceries in the store.
I know of guys who built high hp turbo street cars that had them tuned specifically for E85,
because the octane is insanely high. Wonder what they are doing to counteract the alcohol,
which is at fully 85% and not 10%
While a rediculous and extraneous strawman, I'll say just this.
They rebuild them frequently or they have addressed each and every ethanol related component that could be damaged by ethanol. I don't know of any ethanol promoting lobby groups supporting any programs to retrofit vehicles sensitive to ethanol's effects. "Here Mr. consumer, you have to pay for this poison and you have to pay for the antidote when you eventually find it."
Jump ahead to the hard data and stay away from 'stories'; ie: ethanol ie: octane ratings
Ethanol Burns slower. This is the same effect you are looking for with higher octane ratings. This is why ethanol is the primary component of octane boosters. ie; resistance to knock.
As I have learned, ethanol is harder to ignite (resulting in its high octane number) and it burns cooler, as it has less specific energy content.
gas with ethanol has an inherent instability that makes it start to deteriorate at about 3 months. this occurs because of its ability to attract water easier than gasoline alone.
Actually it doesn't blend or bond with gasoline, additives are need to help this and they break down in about 3 months, depending on storage conditions, which causes separation even if water or humidity is not present. Water accelerates the process of separation even faster, like the same day. In fact, you can remove the ethanol from gas by adding water to it and waiting for the ethanol water bonded mixture to settle to the bottom, then siphon off the top layers of real gasoline.
It takes 14lbs of air to burn 1 lb of gasoline. It takes 9 lbs of air to burn 1lb of ethanol. It takes 7lbs of air for 1 lb of methanol. Alcohols make more power because you can burn a lot more of it.
Whoops, start with some good facts and tie misinformation to it. Hmmm
Alcohols do NOT make more power.
Engines that have upped the compression ratio or are inlet boosted CAN make more brake horsepower, because of the
compression or manifold pressure boost, NOT because of alcohol in place of gasoline. Both fuels need oxygen to combust. You get more power when their is more oxygen per unit of volume, which is what boosting and higher C/Rs does.
If you are losing MPG with 10%...you aren't set up right.
Partially true, guess. Carbureted engines designed for real gas, certainly won't meter in proper proportion with the poisoned/diluted fuel. However, with the lower energy content of ethanol, you will have to use more of it exert the same force as gasoline. MPG absolutely MUST suffer regardless of tuning.
Bigger jets. Diddle with the timing. More fuel to get the same BTU's converted to forward motion.
How is it again that using more fuel increases MPG?
replace rubber parts with nitril or viton parts....
Yes, and this expense offsets the consumer savings in blending with ethanol?
From a Motorcycle perspective one big ISSUE with Ethanol is the hygroscopic properties of Ethanol that will have very adverse effects on FUEL TANKS! Because they not only keep Water content in suspension but absorb water from the atmosphere!! Corrosion is a huge concern with Ethanol sitting in a Motorcycle TANK! Drain them in the Winter!! or use the products made specifically to deal with the ethanol's adverse effects...Sta-bil, Eagle etc.
And yet, you are pro-ethanol?
I go to pumps that supply non-oxygenated gasoline whenever I find them. It's 91 octane and recommended for vintage cars and small air cooled engines, motorcycles etc. Non Oxy has no oxygen enhancers in the fuel. It is harder to refine,
Hows that? They made gasoline for many years before "oxygenation". How is it harder to make something without adding something "extra"?
