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Offline captain rats

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frame kits
« on: June 06, 2013, 01:43:08 AM »
Has anyone got any opinions/advice on the frame kit Carpy does? It looks like the kit when off the frame leaves a bit more space than the Gordon kit. It also looks like it is easier to put on.

 Is the kit strong enough though? It looks like the Gordon kit is a bit stronger when mounted up?

Any thoughts?

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Re: frame kits
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2013, 10:13:05 PM »
Gordon has never done anything half ass
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Re: frame kits
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2013, 11:19:20 PM »
Gordons kit also retains the cross brace, Carpy's doesn't... ;)

CycleX have kits as well...
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Re: frame kits
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2013, 11:02:45 AM »
I have not had any failures or noticed more flex or anything. But , then again I treat it like the 40 yr old bike it is. With gentle love and respect.
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Re: frame kits
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2013, 11:17:37 AM »
I'm guessing I have the most real world experience with the less robust frame rail style kits. I have the original APE frame rail kit. Imagine Carpy's kit without the cross piece. Just the 2 straight tubes with the 4 sliding sleeves. Big Jay at APE has said here that he sold many thousands of those kits back in the day. I bought 2 in 1980 or so. I installed one, the other is still new in the blister pack.

I used it on my bike as a roadracer, some drag racing, and then 50,000 miles (maybe a lot more, the speedo was broken) as a tourer, often 2 up, often overloaded. I suffered no frame wiggles or fatigue cracks or anything negative at all.

So, I also now have a Gordon's kit, for another project. It is far more robust, but may be more than is necessary, by my experience. I wouldn't hesitate to use Carpy's kit, or CycleX. Install and enjoy, no worries.

Realize if you will, there are tens (were) of thousands of CB750s running around with those tubes cut out and NOTHING replacing them. I've never heard of a failure.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2013, 11:21:29 AM by MCRider »
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Re: frame kits
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2013, 02:52:07 PM »
Turbo 750 has been testing a cutout frame..hard for a long time..

 There is a flaw on the Gordon kits, that nobody seems to notice, it is visible even when installed. I am surprised nobody has mentioned it..I built a few kits and I eliminated that problem, but its just the way I like to do things..
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Re: frame kits
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2013, 03:26:25 PM »
Whats the flaw Frank..?
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2013, 03:39:02 PM »
Take a good look at it if you cant see it maybe. Its not. A big deal to some people..
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Re: frame kits
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2013, 03:42:14 PM »
PM sent
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Re: frame kits
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2013, 03:54:45 PM »
Great responses thank you.

It also seems that you can install the Carpy kit when the engine is in?

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Re: frame kits
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2013, 03:57:37 PM »
You should be able to install all of them with the engine in, just cover the engine from sparks....
750 K2 1000cc
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750 Bitsa 900cc
If You can't fix it with a hammer, You've got an electrical problem.