Topic: A Question for Our Pilot Members..

[Terry in Australia]

no, apparently the passengers took it down.

Oh fair enough mate, the passengers took it down ........... how did they manage to do that again? 

[SteveD CB500F]

Didn't they all storm the hijackers?

[Terry in Australia]

Didn't they all storm the hijackers?

So if they overpowered the hijackers, why didn't the pilots just fly the plane home? 

[SteveD CB500F]

Weren't the hijackers flying the plane at the time ? ...

[Terry in Australia]

Weren't the hijackers flying the plane at the time ? ...

But weren't they overpowered by the passengers? 

[SteveD CB500F]

I give up mate.  I'm just a Brit...

[Terry in Australia]

I give up mate.  I'm just a Brit...

Fair enough mate, I was just wondering? Do you reckon you'll beat us in the Ashes? I hear Flintoff is coming out early to play with an Aussie club so we can teach him how to bat by November? I don't think that's enough time, ha ha!

[SteveD CB500F]

We can take this up on the "Ashes" thread.

Personally, I don't think we stand a chance. 

[ohiocaferacer]

Didn't the airforce shoot down one of the airliners on 9/11? I'm sure I saw that somewhere? 

I think this was talked about one other time....with ElCheapo 9/11 Consir topic. But.....i'll bring it up again.

There was a military fighter jet in contact with that aircraft while it was in Ohio.....how do I know??? Lets just say I work here in Ohio, for a government agengy and at that time....we had a aircraft in north eastern Ohio doing aerial photography. Our pilot and photographer.......both heard the entire coversation with Cleveland center and the hijacked aircraft that went down in PA. As they were going to the closest airport to land, per ATC instructions........they heard the fighter jet trying to contact the hijacked aircraft and to get them to acknowledge. Our aircraft lost the communications as they got closer to landing and werent able to hear what happend later. There definately was a fighter jet with that hijacked aircraft while it was over Ohio.

I'm not one to believe in the consirpacy theorys.....but, when you have 2 guys you know very well tell you what they just witnessed and then on the evening news you hear a completely different story.....hummmm??? Didnt the news reports during 9/11 in PA, show 2 crash sites at first??? I remember the local news showing a large area on fire/smoking in the woods a few miles away from the main crash site in the field......and the reporters talking about the aircraft being in 2 parts....several miles apart.

Sorry guys.....but i'll never believe those passengers took down that plane.

[Rushoid]

Maybe the passengers took it down. Maybe they didn't. But if a hijacked plane is not communicating and responding, especially in the midst of all of the #$%* that happened that day, then it needs to be taken down. It is horrible that those people had to die, but in doing so they saved the lives of countless others. If I was on that plane (or a loved one), and I couldn't do something about the situation myself, I would rather be in a smoking hole in a field than a smoking hole in D.C.

If the US Government shot that plane down, it wasn't for the fun of it. They did it because they had to. And if they covered it up by saying the passengers took it down, then that's even better. In doing so they gave a little honor to those poor people who died so that others may live. What story would you rather remember?

There is crap that goes down everyday that the government doesn't tell me about. I'm glad. I don't want to know where our troops are going to invade tomorrow. Or how we just missed nuclear war by 2 seconds. There is some #$%* that we just don't need to know.

[cbjunkie]

But weren't they overpowered by the passengers?  Huh

that's what we assume...

terry, these are great questions. make sure Jesus answers them for you in 10-20 years or so...

One thing is for sure - the military doesn't CLAIM to have shot it down, not that they would of course, then the gov't would be "responsible" and that wouldn't work - we know how much this administration hates to be "responsible" for anything that doesn't smell and taste like Minnie Mouse's tit sweat.

IF they did shoot it down it would be the only thing they got right that week.

[Rushoid]

... we know how much this administration hates to be "responsible" for anything that doesn't smell and taste like Minnie Mouse's tit sweat.

IF they did shoot it down it would be the only thing they got right that week.

CBJ, not sure what you mean here. Are you implying that 9/11 is Bush's fault? He had been in office all of 9 months. That kind of thing doesn't just come together overnight. I'm not trying to start off a big political debate, I'm just curious.

[Bob Wessner]

I need to dig into it more, but on the way back from an appointment this morning I heard that recently released communication tapes, that included military communications, indicates that Flight 93 had already crashed before the military was aware it was hijacked. No matter, really, how it went down. Making the call to intercept and shoot would be the most difficult decision any president or administration might ever face, regardless of who was in power and you would never be able to adequately explain the choice to the public.

[Terry in Australia]

Still, that makes more sense than the official story. I'm sure the first reports I saw on the news that day said that the fighter jets shot it down, and I was always sceptical about the official "Passengers fought it down" snake oil that we've been told to believe since? Pffft!

[BobbyR]

It is possible the plane was shot down. Fighters can make it from Burlington Vt to NYC in 18 minutes. If I were the Gov't I would rather not admit I killed my own citizens no matter what the reason. Especially when the passengers fought back which is a perfect American story. We were all raised on Westerns. Your heart goes out to the families and if the story gives them comfort, so be it. If it was shot down, the pilot who foxed his missiles, or more likely guns since missles are not generally mounted, will never be the same. Killing the enemy is far easier to live with.