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Offline mario medeiros

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sandcast value?
« on: June 11, 2013, 07:29:36 AM »
Looking to sell a cb750 vin#100002xx and motor#100006xx (not sure how many 0's after the #1 but a very low motor and frame #.Bike is beat and will need a full restore,missing seat,tail light,frame was cromed ect.What is a non runner worth with those #'s????I know send a pic which i will try later.Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2013, 07:40:30 AM »
Hi Mario,

...take a look @ this one, a few days ago on ebay BUT i was complete! --> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Rare-1969-Sandcast-Honda-CB-750-Museum-Quality-/111068053917?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid=111000&algo=REC.CURRENT&ao=1&asc=27&meid=7589344718202458640&pid=100033&prg=1011&rk=4&sd=230978889358&&forcev4exp=true

Do You have a picture of the bike ? Would be a little bit better with a picture.

Good luck...Georg
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2013, 07:51:21 AM »
I'll come along for the ride here!  Such great serial numbered bikes finding their way to the market lately!

Yes, pics please ;D

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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2013, 07:54:03 AM »
What country is the bike in..?
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Re: sandcast value?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2013, 09:16:59 AM »
Try to get pics tonight,bike is in Caledon Ontario Canada near Toronto

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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2013, 09:20:23 AM »
I smell sardines!!! NICE bike. Heres' a little tidbit to think on!!I'd be leery of some one selling that big ticket item with ONLY 1247 BID history!!!

We have a member in South Africa (Hondachopper) There was a VERY nice CB750 chopper for sale on their Ebay in Africa and asked if we as Honda Chopper guys thought it was a good deal.. It was an excellent deal if it had not been a scam!!! We found out by checking with the OWNER of the BIKE and it was NOT for sale. Someone had lifted the PICTURE from GOOGLE Images and posted an add for sale.
For that KIND of money, I'd make him deliver it and make sure I had a lot of documentation before I'd hand someone 35Gs


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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2013, 11:24:02 AM »
Im in.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 12:54:58 PM »
Me too.  Starting my popcorn now.
1969 CB750 sandcast #97 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1969 CB750 sandcaxt #576 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1553 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1990 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #5383 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1970 CB750 K0 restored - Sold
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2013, 03:03:44 PM »
Or look on the title?
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2013, 03:10:54 PM »
Mario is legit.

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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2013, 03:12:51 PM »
Lots of sceptics around.  ::)
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2013, 04:32:59 PM »
All depends on condition. Caledon is near me and I'm currently looking for another sandcast so I'd be interested.
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2013, 04:35:06 PM »
Chrome plating on a frame will lower its value dramatically unless you find a chrome lover that doesn't want it original
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2013, 04:40:49 PM »
Just look at the SANDCAST  parts listed on E-BAY!! More than half advertized could be used on ANY model CB750. I'm by no means a SANDCAST expert ,I'll admit.   I'm sorry  but I don't feel a SANDY is WORTH that kind of money,,, Give me a 57  CHEVY!!!


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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2013, 04:53:50 PM »
Curious to know what it's worth too, I guess the old saying "whatever someone will pay" applies here.
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2013, 05:10:05 PM »
Lots of sceptics around.  ::)

I agree......and there are alot of skeptics too.   ;D

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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2013, 05:15:32 PM »
And there are a lot of skeptics around too.

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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2013, 02:52:38 AM »
'Then' and 'than' are completely different words and have completely different meanings. Same with 'of' and 'have'. Set and sit. There, their and they're. Draw and drawer. Could care less/couldn't care less. Bought/brought FFS.


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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2013, 12:17:23 PM »
For a untrained eye a sandcast part may look like a later cb750 part. But near me we have a fella who has on of the biggest sandcast collections in teh world. And he told me the difference in some parts that I couldn't se or imagine, for these guys it's a "sport" to collect and install 100% correct parts :)

Here's a newa article in a local newpaper. Ill translate it with google translate quickly.
http://www.kristianstadsbladet.se/hassleholm/article1905523/Bojje-har-dille-pa-gamla-motorcyklar.html

"What Bo Göran "Bojje" Fredin dont know about a Honda CB 750 Sandcast is not worth knowing. He has one of the largest collections of motorcycle from 1969.
 - Should I do something, it must be worse than all the others, otherwise it can be. He states.


In the garage outside Hässleholmsvägen standing eight shiny copy of Honda CB 750 series from 1969. Six years ago, Bo Göran "Bojje" Fredin craze on the model, which was initially produced in a small edition in which the engine was cast in a sand mold. Honda noticed quickly that the sale went much better than expected and soon scrapped sand concept for a more affordable manufacturing.

Unusual model

Of the 7,414 engines called Sandcast series is available today only 377 copies left in the world. Of them, 26 are in Sweden, of which eight are in Bojjes possession. He also has three more waiting to be assembled.

- My goal was really to get a Sandcast. When I realized that they were different was my goal to learn everything. It is also not a bad deal and I have fiendishly fun, he says.

Much work

When he does something takes his competitive instincts at, he says. His collection extending from the frame number 388 to 5119. Each bike requires 250 hours of work to get in top condition.

- Should I build a bike, in my world it must be one hundred percent, just as when it left the factory. This, he says, pointing at numer 388, is the world's finest 750 with such a low number. Every bolt is right on the bike. But the paintwork of the frame is blank, it will actually be a little duller, he says.

Long-term interest

He has an eye on everything from bolt length and the paper used for the oil blanket the appearance.

And certainly he awakens attention when he comes gliding on their rarities.

- You can be sure that any ladders up and says that one of those I've had, the kind my father had, or one of those, my brother had.

He himself has always been interested in mechanical and driving fast. The first time he drove a moped to school he was twelve. Interest in Honda took off in 1970 when his father had come over a 750 at a good price. Before Bojje were aged over 18 had been 1,000 mil.

Eventually he went on a road racing career, but gave it up and went for rally, which was crowned with a SM-win.

In 1996 he founded the company Snapphanetruck, which has grown and now has 26 employees.

So in the early - 2000s awakened the urge to get a similar motorbike that he had when he was 18. The salesman then asked if he had heard of Sandcast, which was rare - and expensive. Then Bojje fixed.

Good quality

- I've always niche me. I do not think it's fun to walk around and be like everyone else. Should I do something it'll be worse, otherwise it can be.

And the bike's mettle is nothing wrong if you believe Bojje.

- English BSA and Harley Davidson from the time stopped every 15 mil and was never lucid. With these you can go and go and go. A Norwegian bought a new Sandcast 1969. When I was there last year, they said it had gone 57 000 mil.

Once he has built up the three incomplete specimens he does not believe there will be some more. There is simply no more to get in.

- But there are plenty of 25-30 year olds who think this is kultigt, so it will probably live on, says Bojje.

- I have a forest site in Lönsboda taking the big time in the day where I can fix up and donations. Then there is no time to refurbish bikes, but I'm glad I did it."
Please ! Take a look and give me feedback in my project thread, its much needed :)
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=112745.0

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Re: sandcast value?
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2013, 01:40:12 PM »
A good traveller has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving. --Lao Tsu

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project: 1971 Honda CL350
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1973 BMW R90/6
1981 Suzuki GS650
1973 Honda CD175

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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2013, 05:26:43 PM »
Here are some pics.....it appears to be an unstamped (restamped) sandcast engine with few other original parts.






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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2013, 06:19:01 PM »
I think the forks don't match..the RHS is a K1 and the LHS is a K0.  I wonder if the VIN stamp survived the chroming..

I mean, it's inherently more valuable than a later K in comparable condition, but it's a big gamble unless you're really just in it to have a sandcast.  Does it have the wrinkle tank?  Does it have the 2-hole rear hub?  What do the gauges look like?  Does it have the K0 oil tank?  It's hard to give a valuation.

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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2013, 06:21:35 PM »
That is an odd stamped number.
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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2013, 06:28:05 PM »
LOOK closer at the engine NUMBER!! There are NUMBERS stamped after the 1000.It has 77/78 carbs not round tops with individual cables. The front fender don't look right! Not a sandcast side cover!  It does look like a sandcast engine because of the texture of the metal, but there are a LOT of NOT sandcast parts , What is the frame ##



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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2013, 06:45:15 PM »
The housing on the gauges look to be the K0 plastic housing.
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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2013, 07:31:39 PM »
Can't tell but is that a thin lip stator cover or not. A lot of the sandcast stuff is gone. It would cost a big amount of money and time to find some of these parts (if you can find then). Plus removing the chrome... if the vin was chromed over I'm not sure it would survive. Also hard to price because of the incorrectly stamped cases
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Re: sandcast value?
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2013, 04:55:20 AM »
Frame # is in the mid 200's ,Have Steve coming over who lives close to me and knows much more about these bikes than i do to give me a idea on what i have.Good or bad it is still a nice find, now i am not sure if i keep it or put it to the corner and have it as a winter project.Use what is there as i know finding all the 69 parts would be a bit of work and $$$