Author Topic: Tews' 605 build, On the road! 5/4! (Read 81136 times)

Tews19 · « **Reply #375 on:** July 01, 2014, 02:54:28 PM »

FINALLY! The front end is done! I cleaned up the frame with the help of my youngest boy. Mocked it up. Sorry bout the cap pitcures as they were taken in the garage. Thanks to Matt for helping me with a list of parts to being to the powder coater.

Tews19 · « **Reply #376 on:** July 01, 2014, 02:56:06 PM »

A few pics. If anyone can think of small tidbits that need/should be powder coated please let me know.

Stev-o · « **Reply #377 on:** July 01, 2014, 02:57:20 PM »

The frame??

Tews19 · « **Reply #378 on:** July 01, 2014, 03:05:17 PM »

Wow! I almost forgot about the frame!

Mcwilliams570 · « **Reply #379 on:** July 01, 2014, 03:10:51 PM »

Quote from: Stev-o on July 01, 2014, 02:57:20 PM

The frame??

edwardmorris · « **Reply #380 on:** July 01, 2014, 03:11:12 PM »

Foot pegs, engine mounts, center and side stands, battery box, tool tray, triple trees, chain guard, swingarm and frame.

riverfever · « **Reply #381 on:** July 09, 2014, 09:07:11 PM »

What's happening with this? Love that seat and tank line.

Tews19 · « **Reply #382 on:** July 10, 2014, 06:24:39 AM »

Frame is at the PC'r. Then assembly. ... Goal is to have it running by the end of July.

Stev-o · « **Reply #383 on:** July 10, 2014, 06:32:43 AM »

Quote from: Tews19 on July 10, 2014, 06:24:39 AM

Goal is to have it running by the end of July.

Really? It's July 10th, ya know?? Could happen if you quit shopping CL.....ha!

Tews19 · « **Reply #384 on:** July 10, 2014, 07:55:53 AM »

I won't be able to have it showroom ready. But driveable.

cb550inct · « **Reply #385 on:** July 14, 2014, 09:47:22 AM »

have not been on this site in 2 years, I am currently helping a friend with a cb750...great thread and ambitious build...

Just a question if you ever were going to do this again would you consider having a custom made frame made? Made specifically for the GSXR front end and a wide rear tire? I miss the sound and the feel of my old honda 550 engine, but i love a modern ride.

Since I got rid of the honda I have had 2 Triumphs I had the Thruxton but its just like a old cb...I spent alot of money on suspension and engine upgrades but something was missing. I moved to a Street Triple 675 and OMG its awesome.

Anyways I love your vision and your thread has been a great read

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #386 on:** July 14, 2014, 10:11:33 AM »

Quote from: cb550inct on July 14, 2014, 09:47:22 AM

have not been on this site in 2 years, I am currently helping a friend with a cb750...great thread and ambitious build...

Just a question if you ever were going to do this again would you consider having a custom made frame made? Made specifically for the GSXR front end and a wide rear tire? I miss the sound and the feel of my old honda 550 engine, but i love a modern ride.

Since I got rid of the honda I have had 2 Triumphs I had the Thruxton but its just like a old cb...I spent alot of money on suspension and engine upgrades but something was missing. I moved to a Street Triple 675 and OMG its awesome.

Anyways I love your vision and your thread has been a great read

No offense intended, but I think that a custom made frame (to accept the GSXR front and rear) defeats the purpose of many of these modern front end swap builds. The bike is intended to retain the frame (and title from that frame) and to modernize and improve the front end braking and handling via a relatively easy swap. If you want a custom modern bike frame, why even stick with the old engine? For my work in progress 750 with a modern CBR600RR front, I wanted to retain some of the vintage character with the frame and engine.

cb550inct · « **Reply #387 on:** July 14, 2014, 11:08:48 AM »

I agree, but i would be curious to try it. An honestly i dont think your keeping the integrity of the bike by putting a gsxr. front end on the bike, and hacking the rear fender and frame. Im thinking of the possibilty, these vintage honda engines are amazing

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #388 on:** July 14, 2014, 11:55:17 AM »

Quote from: cb550inct on July 14, 2014, 11:08:48 AM

I agree, but i would be curious to try it. An honestly i dont think your keeping the integrity of the bike by putting a gsxr. front end on the bike, and hacking the rear fender and frame. Im thinking of the possibilty, these vintage honda engines are amazing

It's not about keeping the "integrity" of the bike, but as I said "some of the character." With all due respect, if this was about keeping the "integrity" of the bike, we would not be discussing a cafe or restomod. We'd be talking about a restoration or survivor style bike.

The 550 engine in stock form is not terribly potent, but the bike is light enough to make it fun. If you haven't seen it already, check out the Thorn built by Ian Halcott and Twinline. A punched out Kawasaki 550 twin motor mounted into a braced 550 frame. A light, nimble little track bike. Braced like hell, because these CB frames flex A LOT.

I'm sure you could put a 550 motor into another frame, but at that point, why? There are much more capable power plants available.

Just my $0.02. If you don't like my opinion, that's perfectly fine.

cb550inct · « **Reply #389 on:** July 14, 2014, 11:59:43 AM »

This guy is From CT and If i ever go back to a CB550 this is how i would do it. Maybe i wasn't clear on the frame idea but this is what I had in mind.

http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=31281.0

calj737 · « **Reply #390 on:** July 14, 2014, 12:26:58 PM »

Not really a custom frame at all, just a custom seat hoop/subframe. He missed the most important part of the bike: the engine hoop. Thats where all the structural weaknesses are.

Most of the mods done by Tews (and many others) are in effect the same as this guy from DTT. Only real difference is he cut and reversed the uprights to tie in differently to the backbone. Suits his build, but tons of work for little gain.

Im all for cutting a frame up (trust me, I own more saw blades and TIG wire than socks) but only for a distinct purpose. If I were to drop a Stage 4 650 motor into a 500/550 frame, I'd be bracing the ever-loving dogpee out of it. Even significant HP changes on my 500 will see some added welds and a stiffener. But a custom frame, not with it being a track bike. Not enough HP to warrant it. Besides, I'd rather spend $1800-$3000 on go fast parts than on a frame over-engineered for the street.

CB750 - I do like your opinion. But I think cb550 deserves a little patience with his question. Perhaps not perfectly phrased, but well-intentioned I think.

Sorry for the jack, Tews.

Tews19 · « **Reply #391 on:** July 14, 2014, 02:08:39 PM »

No hijack guys. CB550 and I go way back from when I was first.on the site.

Glad to see you stop by CB550.... I had a stupid thought less then a month ago. I almost traded my K1 in for a new Thruxton. But after the test ride I decided not worth it. I bought my K1 for 800... Why spend 10k after all said and done for a modern bike that in my opinion wasn't up to par of my 750.

Anyways the cut up frame has been put on hold for a 650 build. Hopefully I will get the new frame back from the powder coater this week. I also have a big purchase coming up.

RAFster122s · « **Reply #392 on:** July 14, 2014, 02:12:29 PM »

You apparently have not seen what Brent has been able to accomplish with some head work and a six speed transmission fitted to his 550 race bike. He is cranking out some pretty impressive numbers in hp and torque for the little 550 powerplant.

David

calj737 · « **Reply #393 on:** July 14, 2014, 02:21:06 PM »

Well aware of Brent's config. And in that circumstance, as I said, I would brace (as he has done) and bolster the frame. But a full-on custom frame? Not sure I'd do it on a 550 even if it were putting out 70+ HP. Maybe for a full-on race frame for serious money would it be worth it to me. Modern chro-mo or manganese with bronze gas welded tubing. That would be very sweet!

Tews19 · « **Reply #394 on:** July 14, 2014, 02:23:30 PM »

Quick question.... I am a vinegar fan when cleaning parts off of rust. What should I use for the engine mounting bolts? My goal is to have a roller the day I get the frame back...Also what should I spray bomb them with to stop the rusting process? .

edwardmorris · « **Reply #395 on:** July 14, 2014, 02:28:17 PM »

Quote from: Tews19 on July 14, 2014, 02:23:30 PM

Quick question.... I am a vinegar fan when cleaning parts off of rust. What should I use for the engine mounting bolts? My goal is to have a roller the day I get the frame back...Also what should I spray bomb them with to stop the rusting process? .

Evaporust is the best so far from what I can tell, especially if you're on a deadline. Its pricey though. Have the long bolts zinc'd if you can, the paint might scratch off when pushing them through and start rusting again...

calj737 · « **Reply #396 on:** July 14, 2014, 02:42:23 PM »

Depending on how bad they are, chock them in a drill and spin them with steel wool and WD-40. This can polish them up without removing the plating. If they're really bad, send them to me. I'll cut you some new stainless ones on the lathe. No corrosion, no problem.

edwardmorris · « **Reply #397 on:** July 14, 2014, 02:45:49 PM »

Quote from: calj737 on July 14, 2014, 02:42:23 PM

I'll cut you some new stainless ones on the lathe. No corrosion, no problem.

REALLY? That would be perfect, can you please do 750s too

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Tews19 · « **Reply #398 on:** July 14, 2014, 02:47:40 PM »

Cal PM coming. I won't use evaporust anymore. I bought it when I first joined the site. Imo vinegar works better. It only takes longer.

calj737 · « **Reply #399 on:** July 14, 2014, 02:49:19 PM »

No PM necessary. Just send them along. You have the address already. If not, it's on the box coming Thursday.

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