Thanks guys as far as demon74 goes I was tempting fate by changing it early and demon 84 is ok but I'm more interested in making it to 75 now and at 75 I expect gifts he he and I regret that my daughters said no scantily clad young ladies on this one I'll have to put what Machiavellian charms I can bring to bear on them for 75, maybe if I start now. Cold ones found a place that has a smoker and Okanagan Spring pale ale on tap, so it's ribs and suds for dinner.
Bill the elder demon.