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Offline Magilla

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What are these?
« on: July 23, 2013, 08:11:10 am »
Last week I was at Ricks Restorations in Las Vegas and he had these two bikes there.  anyone know what they are?  The 2 cyclinder is a Honda but I'm not sure what model.  The single cyclinder i think is Japanese due to the shift on the left side but thats just a guess.
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 11:00:23 am »
Second one looks like it's based around a CB175 or so.

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Re: What are these?
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2013, 11:04:38 am »
Different carbs from the 175. More like CB250/350/360
The first one has gearchange and kicker combined so I'll guess CZ as I've never seen anything else with that arrangement.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2013, 11:13:54 am by LesterPiglet »
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 11:47:50 am »
Quote from: LesterPiglet on July 23, 2013, 11:04:38 am
Different carbs from the 175. More like CB250/350/360
The first one has gearchange and kicker combined so I'll guess CZ as I've never seen anything else with that arrangement.

I was thinking the same but CZs had the shifter and kicker in one lever only, this one has two levers on the same spindle.
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2013, 12:09:47 pm »
One lever was the deluxe model.  :P
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2013, 01:03:55 pm »
Quote from: LesterPiglet on July 23, 2013, 11:04:38 am
Different carbs from the 175. More like CB250/350/360
The first one has gearchange and kicker combined so I'll guess CZ as I've never seen anything else with that arrangement.

Yep, CB250/350 for sure.....
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Re: What are these?
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2013, 01:11:41 pm »
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2013, 01:17:56 pm »
I asked jawa/cz guys in Czech  ;D. Not my knowledge.
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2013, 03:19:28 pm »
I think top pic is a Hummer..
 Correct though in that the Hummer and Bantam ,were rippedoff from DKW and Germany by the Spoils of War rules.. So the Bantam and Hummer are in away..knockoffs..

Honda looks like a CL 250/350..
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2013, 03:56:46 am »
Seems like the ČZ 125B/T was build using DKW as a model.

Lester:  the one lever kicker/shifter was actually pretty smart.  From neutral you flip it back, start and flip it back forward to use as a shifter.  It made for massive levers for sure, ever since my CZ the shifter on Hondas seems to be very inadequate  :)
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2013, 04:51:25 am »
Was it an easy operation to use? If you stalled could you kick it without leaning down to change with your hand?
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2013, 04:58:16 am »
When stalled you could tap the shifter/starter over with your toe and bring it into kick position.  I had a 175 Jawa Trailmaster and got used to it fairly quickly. It was a brilliant concept...Larry
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2013, 05:06:56 am »
I would say so.  You had to push the lever in, slide it closer to the engine, typically with your heel (that feature prevented the kickstart from being enabled during shifting) and flip it back with your toes.

The kickstart was ready at about 45 degrees to the back and the stroke went down to 45 or so  degress under horizontal line.   Cold start, such as this one:

Jawa-čz 175/356 start

you would do with your right foot, but once warm you could easily start it with your left foot.
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 07:34:42 am »
Quote from: 70CB750 on July 24, 2013, 05:06:56 am
I would say so.  You had to push the lever in, slide it closer to the engine, typically with your heel (that feature prevented the kickstart from being enabled during shifting) and flip it back with your toes.

The kickstart was ready at about 45 degrees to the back and the stroke went down to 45 or so  degress under horizontal line.   Cold start, such as this one:

Jawa-čz 175/356 start

you would do with your right foot, but once warm you could easily start it with your left foot.

OK that is SOOOO cool.  I've got to get me one of those.
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2013, 07:48:14 am »
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Re: What are these?
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2013, 08:55:18 am »
Brilliant idle.
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