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Offline txterror

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tach face cracking
« on: August 13, 2013, 06:52:57 PM »
Hi guys, my tach face finally cracked in half. Question is, can i just buy an overlay or do i need to find a replacement? Does anyone know where i could get a replacement. Last question, how hard is the job to change it? Thanks .....this is a brutal summer. Safe riding
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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2013, 09:20:13 PM »
Wow....wtf?   Usually just the paint cracks on the overlay.  eBay has all types....

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.XCb750+overlay&_nkw=Cb750+overlay&_sacat=0&_from=R40

Not exactly a simple change out though.
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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2013, 09:29:57 PM »
its easy sort off.

2 way of doing it

first take off everything connected to the gauge.

1) take a small flat head screw driver and slowly pry with a twisting motion the back of the pressed metal band that holds the front and the rear of the case together. Pros- if done well it will look clean front and back

2) take a small small jewelers saw and cut the little metal band. Pros- faster and if done correctly much cleaner when put back together

-optional- after splitting the case clean and re lube the gears might as well since your inside of it. i used a lube that comes in a pen style container to re lube computer case fans.

next step is to go into your kitchen and grab a fork. taking the fork slid it under the tach pointer arrow thing with the middle spindle thing between the 2 center teeth. use it like a pry bar and gently rock the tach pointer thing off.

then there is only 2 screws that hold on the tach face.

there are plenty of gauges faces
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB550-CB550f-CB500t-CB-Cafe-Racer-Gauge-Face-Plates-Decal-Overlay-Applique-/310710746600

^ for example

also while your tach arrow thing is off take some model paint and paint it crispy white again with whatever color tip you want.

install in the reverse order.

1) re crimp the end with the flattest pair of pliers you got with a bunch of rubber bands over the teeth of the pliers and some cloth or whatever to protect it when you crimp it back

2) clean the cut edges very well and pre tin the edges with solder. then squeeze them together and drop another bead of solder to seal the deal. OR put a small drop of epoxy (sand-able so you can make it super clean making the epoxy flush carefully sanding it; if you get paint-able epoxy and dont mind changing the color of the ring to like black or something it will be invisible) maybe even blue lock tight then clamping the ring together (large hose clamp or rubber band). or a quick little spot weld. obviously this all takes place on the bottom of the gauge.

3) ditch all that jazz and buy this
http://jokermachine.com/products/cafe-racer/honda-cb750-parts/cb750-speedo-tach-clamp-rings.html

4) or maybe one of these old timers can chime in and tell me what im about to explain. i have seen a flange style clamp ring that is specifically made to replace that ring that has a very small screw at the bottom to clamp them back tight. i dont even know what to search in google to even pull up the correct thing. i know there out there i have seen it!! this option would be hella cheap but i dont even know the name of the item to search for it
« Last Edit: August 13, 2013, 09:32:52 PM by xsmooth69x »
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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2013, 09:36:50 PM »
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=88853.200

i also modded mine

post #204 someone quoted me and then i went more in depth how to lay it out





1975 CB550 (FINISHED?!?!?)
first motorcycle ever!!! ow and i dont know how to ride it either :D

raw rust rice venti quad shot cafe racing latte project aka my build..... http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=88853.0

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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2013, 09:51:19 PM »
Thanks for the tips guys, I did see the overlays on ebay, but dont i need the actual face plate? I saw some out there but they were all for 750's. I need one for a cb400f. Maybe I can make one myself? and buy some overlays for the home made piece.
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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2013, 10:21:51 PM »
Thanks for the tips guys, I did see the overlays on ebay, but dont i need the actual face plate? I saw some out there but they were all for 750's. I need one for a cb400f. Maybe I can make one myself? and buy some overlays for the home made piece.

well look harder....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Cafe-Racer-CB400F-400F-Gauge-Tach-Overlay-Decal/321184353761?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D554913525330326418%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D221265825032%26

there is plenty.

i would just glue it back together and sand off the original face so the light can really bleed through the gauge plate.

i would imagine the black would cover up any uneven light shining because of the crack since its black vinyl. your crack dosnt seem to other than maybe very little in number two and a hash mark in between the 10-11k range.

if for some reason the crack is noticeable then find a forum member that has a destroyed faceplate from the elements but is still intact then grab it and sand it down. you will have to sand down the speedo guage too for consistency if your super anal like me and want the light to bleed evenly on both gauges
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first motorcycle ever!!! ow and i dont know how to ride it either :D

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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2013, 10:25:12 PM »
making home made face plates will work for the tach since its a circle and 3 holes you have to drill in a piece of plexiglass. the only problem that i see is that the way the gauges will shine between the speedo and the tach will be different.

you would have to make the same back plate like the tach..... so when you find perfectly square plexiglass punches or drill bits let me know so you can cut out the odometer section
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first motorcycle ever!!! ow and i dont know how to ride it either :D

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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2013, 02:25:00 PM »
am i better off just buying a used tach? found a couple for about $50, does any1 have any spares?
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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2013, 03:25:56 PM »
am i better off just buying a used tach? found a couple for about $50, does any1 have any spares?

Thats what I would do.  You might want to consider buying a matched pair is that matters to you?

Check for sale section, someone was selling quite a few awhile back
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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2013, 06:39:57 PM »
Hahaha got worse
« Last Edit: August 16, 2013, 07:14:11 PM by txterror »
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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2013, 07:21:32 PM »
If you look under special offers in the classified section, there's one site offering us a discount on gauge faces. About $37 per gauge set.

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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2013, 08:55:12 AM »
Thanks gears
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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2013, 09:30:58 AM »
am i better off just buying a used tach? found a couple for about $50, does any1 have any spares?

Yes, I have a matching set in very good cond for $100
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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2013, 07:09:54 PM »
Thanks stev-o but i dont have that kinda change at the moment and also i dont need both. Im thinking about leaving the guts exposed and just remove the plate. That special for the plates is just for 750 plates... What about the smaller cb's? Ha
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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2013, 07:27:11 PM »
Thanks stev-o but i dont have that kinda change at the moment and also i dont need both. Im thinking about leaving the guts exposed and just remove the plate. That special for the plates is just for 750 plates... What about the smaller cb's? Ha

I might have an old one, I'll look around.
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Re: tach face cracking
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2013, 11:00:33 PM »
Thanks for lookin
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