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Hey Blue - I have done a lot of research about the Z1 since I bought one and have never read about subpar gears in the gearbox? Actually, just the opposite - they are bulletproof just like the CB750.  That basic motor has been used in drag bikes of up to 1200cc!

Read as much as you want and believe what you will, I know what I saw ;).  They were all engines around 40-60,000Km and every tooth on every gear was showing signs of heavy wear, not catastrophic damage, it was surprising considering the size of the gears, they are friggin huge. :o
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Hey Blue - I have done a lot of research about the Z1 since I bought one and have never read about subpar gears in the gearbox? Actually, just the opposite - they are bulletproof just like the CB750.  That basic motor has been used in drag bikes of up to 1200cc!

Read as much as you want and believe what you will, I know what I saw ;).  They were all engines around 40-60,000Km and every tooth on every gear was showing signs of heavy wear, not catastrophic damage, it was surprising considering the size of the gears, they are friggin huge. :o


Honestly, I only care about mine and it runs great and shifts perfectly.
Plus, I just bought a spare engine if needed.
Don't know what a trailer sailer is but my Z hasn't been on a trailer since I've owned it.
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The most impressive bike ever made (and it was made by Honda too), has to be the SuperCub model.  More copies of this vehicle have been produced than any other vehicle in the world. 

Back in 1964, I got my first speeding ticket on a 55cc version of this model.  Since then I have never been caught had another ticket on a motorcycle. ;)

Here's a picture of the one I restored a few years ago.

Beautiful! Boy, Steve-o just does not like "toys" huh? Must be a Z1 thang.  :D

Actually, small bikes are a kick to ride. Can't wait until the CB160 is done.

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The thing about the S90 that makes it impressive is that it started the whole Honda revolution back in the early 60s.  I remember being able to rent one for dirt cheap, that introduced a ton of riders to cycling...Larry

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The thing about the S90 that makes it impressive is that it started the whole Honda revolution back in the early 60s.  I remember being able to rent one for dirt cheap, that introduced a ton of riders to cycling...Larry

Actually it was the SuperCub that started the whole Honda revolution, not the S90.  The SuperCub was introduced to North America back in about 1962.  The S90 didn't come out until 1964 and was much less prevalent in the marketplace.  Honda had already started their famous advertising campaign "You meet the nicest people..." in 1963, based on the SuperCub.

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The most impressive bike ever made (and it was made by Honda too), has to be the SuperCub model.  More copies of this vehicle have been produced than any other vehicle in the world. 

Back in 1964, I got my first speeding ticket on a 55cc version of this model.  Since then I have never been caught had another ticket on a motorcycle. ;)

Here's a picture of the one I restored a few years ago.

Beautiful! Boy, Steve-o just does not like "toys" huh? Must be a Z1 thang. 

No, not a Z1 thang.  Yes, the "toy" bikes can be fun to ride around town, but then what?
I live in a small town, 1 traffic light on the main highway. So after 2 min, I have great twisty roads through the hills that is a blast to ride at 70mph+. 
Think it would be fun on a little bike at 35mph? I think not.
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The most impressive bike ever made (and it was made by Honda too), has to be the SuperCub model.  More copies of this vehicle have been produced than any other vehicle in the world. 

Back in 1964, I got my first speeding ticket on a 55cc version of this model.  Since then I have never been caught had another ticket on a motorcycle. ;)

Here's a picture of the one I restored a few years ago.

Beautiful! Boy, Steve-o just does not like "toys" huh? Must be a Z1 thang. 

No, not a Z1 thang.  Yes, the "toy" bikes can be fun to ride around town, but then what?
I live in a small town, 1 traffic light on the main highway. So after 2 min, I have great twisty roads through the hills that is a blast to ride at 70mph+. 
Think it would be fun on a little bike at 35mph? I think not.

Depends on how much liquor I consumed.

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The most impressive bike ever made (and it was made by Honda too), has to be the SuperCub model.  More copies of this vehicle have been produced than any other vehicle in the world. 

Back in 1964, I got my first speeding ticket on a 55cc version of this model.  Since then I have never been caught had another ticket on a motorcycle. ;)

Here's a picture of the one I restored a few years ago.

Beautiful! Boy, Steve-o just does not like "toys" huh? Must be a Z1 thang. 

No, not a Z1 thang.  Yes, the "toy" bikes can be fun to ride around town, but then what?
I live in a small town, 1 traffic light on the main highway. So after 2 min, I have great twisty roads through the hills that is a blast to ride at 70mph+. 
Think it would be fun on a little bike at 35mph? I think not.

Depends on how much liquor I consumed.

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Good point, Toy!  I try not to ride after 6 margaritas but if I had a Super Cub, would be no problem!
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Of course a doobie would make it scary fast at 35 mph!

I'll have to try that. I'll report back on this.

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The most impressive bike ever made (and it was made by Honda too), has to be the SuperCub model.  More copies of this vehicle have been produced than any other vehicle in the world. 

Back in 1964, I got my first speeding ticket on a 55cc version of this model.  Since then I have never been caught had another ticket on a motorcycle. ;)

Here's a picture of the one I restored a few years ago.

Beautiful! Boy, Steve-o just does not like "toys" huh? Must be a Z1 thang. 

No, not a Z1 thang.  Yes, the "toy" bikes can be fun to ride around town, but then what?
I live in a small town, 1 traffic light on the main highway. So after 2 min, I have great twisty roads through the hills that is a blast to ride at 70mph+. 
Think it would be fun on a little bike at 35mph? I think not.

35mph? :o  My speeding ticket in 1964 was for 42mph, and that was on a 55cc SuperCub like my restored example.  Only thing about that comparison is that the one from 1964 was a blue one and my restored is red...everyone knows red ones are faster. ;)

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Toy, how did you know that I have an original magazine page of that Honda ad, framed and hanging in my bar/pool room?

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The thing about the S90 that makes it impressive is that it started the whole Honda revolution back in the early 60s.  I remember being able to rent one for dirt cheap, that introduced a ton of riders to cycling...Larry

Actually it was the SuperCub that started the whole Honda revolution, not the S90.  The SuperCub was introduced to North America back in about 1962.  The S90 didn't come out until 1964 and was much less prevalent in the marketplace.  Honda had already started their famous advertising campaign "You meet the nicest people..." in 1963, based on the SuperCub.



Got my model nomenclature wrong ??? I agree it is the Super Cub that was the watershed bike for Honda and hence is the most impressive Honda made...Larry

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The thing about the S90 that makes it impressive is that it started the whole Honda revolution back in the early 60s.  I remember being able to rent one for dirt cheap, that introduced a ton of riders to cycling...Larry

Actually it was the SuperCub that started the whole Honda revolution, not the S90.  The SuperCub was introduced to North America back in about 1962.  The S90 didn't come out until 1964 and was much less prevalent in the marketplace.  Honda had already started their famous advertising campaign "You meet the nicest people..." in 1963, based on the SuperCub.



Got my model nomenclature wrong ??? I agree it is the Super Cub that was the watershed bike for Honda and hence is the most impressive Honda made...Larry
Forgiven. ;D  Good to see that we agree on the most impressive Honda ever made.

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Toy, how did you know that I have an original magazine page of that Honda ad, framed and hanging in my bar/pool room?

Drone.

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The most impressive bike ever made (and it was made by Honda too), has to be the SuperCub model.  More copies of this vehicle have been produced than any other vehicle in the world. 

Back in 1964, I got my first speeding ticket on a 55cc version of this model.  Since then I have never been caught had another ticket on a motorcycle. ;)

Here's a picture of the one I restored a few years ago.

Beautiful! Boy, Steve-o just does not like "toys" huh? Must be a Z1 thang. 

No, not a Z1 thang.  Yes, the "toy" bikes can be fun to ride around town, but then what?
I live in a small town, 1 traffic light on the main highway. So after 2 min, I have great twisty roads through the hills that is a blast to ride at 70mph+. 
Think it would be fun on a little bike at 35mph? I think not.

They call them Tiddler bikes over here.

Personally thrashing a bike to its LIMIT is rather fun.

I recently sold my Z bike. Not as fast as a Z1 as it was a Z250 but great fun to ride the wheels off.

Everything is entertaining at the limit.....its just that the limit is under the posted speed limit lol.
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The most impressive bike ever made (and it was made by Honda too), has to be the SuperCub model.  More copies of this vehicle have been produced than any other vehicle in the world. 

Back in 1964, I got my first speeding ticket on a 55cc version of this model.  Since then I have never been caught had another ticket on a motorcycle. ;)

Here's a picture of the one I restored a few years ago.

Beautiful! Boy, Steve-o just does not like "toys" huh? Must be a Z1 thang. 

No, not a Z1 thang.  Yes, the "toy" bikes can be fun to ride around town, but then what?
I live in a small town, 1 traffic light on the main highway. So after 2 min, I have great twisty roads through the hills that is a blast to ride at 70mph+. 
Think it would be fun on a little bike at 35mph? I think not.

They call them Tiddler bikes over here.

Personally thrashing a bike to its LIMIT is rather fun.

I recently sold my Z bike. Not as fast as a Z1 as it was a Z250 but great fun to ride the wheels off.

Everything is entertaining at the limit.....its just that the limit is under the posted speed limit lol.

I borrowed a GPX250 once while my GPX750 was getting some warranty work done {warped disc} and on the highway, every time a truck went passed i was nearly blown off the road, fun in the burbs  but scary on the highway.... :o
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Bet you were having fun while #$%* Scared lol
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Bet you were having fun while #$%* Scared lol

While trying to avoid bouncing off guard rails... ;D   The missing power when over taking was the worst part, " here's a gap, grab a big handfull of throttle, nothing happens" .... ;D :o
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Bet you were having fun while #$%* Scared lol

While trying to avoid bouncing off guard rails... ;D   The missing power when over taking was the worst part, " here's a gap, grab a big handfull of throttle, nothing happens" .... ;D :o

Wring the Tits off it :)
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While trying to avoid bouncing off guard rails... ;D   The missing power when over taking was the worst part, " here's a gap, grab a big handfull of throttle, nothing happens" .... ;D :o

Wring the Tits off it :)

I think it was a girl, its tits hadn't developed yet.... ;D
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Bet you were having fun while #$%* Scared lol

While trying to avoid bouncing off guard rails... ;D   The missing power when over taking was the worst part, " here's a gap, grab a big handfull of throttle, nothing happens" .... ;D :o

Wring the Tits off it :)

I think it was a girl, its tits hadn't developed yet.... ;D

Put Checkers on it.

They make the bike go 10 KPH faster........
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Bet you were having fun while #$%* Scared lol

While trying to avoid bouncing off guard rails... ;D   The missing power when over taking was the worst part, " here's a gap, grab a big handfull of throttle, nothing happens" .... ;D :o

Wring the Tits off it :)

I think it was a girl, its tits hadn't developed yet.... ;D

Put Checkers on it.

They make the bike go 10 KPH faster........

Was it red? ???

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All this banter about two wheeled sewing machines being the most impressive Honda's ever made is making me slightly nauseous.

I mean, yeah, 50 million poor Asians and a handfull of Americans rode these things, but all that makes 'em is cheap transport for the unwashed masses.

At the opposite end of the enjoyment scale, a big black 'Wang is a thing of beauty, it will do 35 MPH in first gear, and it's got 4 more to go! It's a huge bike, so little pippy poofter-bikes like Super-Cubs, S90's and all those other two wheeled pencil sharpeners are rightfully pushed off the road by it's wake.

It's Honda's apology to the first world, for foisting those annoying little mobile chicanes on our glorious motorways, where big black 'Wangs really shine. Death to poofter-bikes, and those who ride them!

Oh, and Stev-O, I've never seen a Z1 gearbox that couldn't take a pounding, and I wasn't referring to you with my "Trailer Sailor" jibe, I know that you're a manly man who rides his bikes, I just hate those wankers who trailer their over-restored statues of motorcycles to and from shows and club meets because they're too pathetic to ride them. ;D
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Spoken like a true American Terry lol
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