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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2006, 04:30:04 AM »
How much fun would that be!!  :o
But a bit of a worry in traffic - you'd be so low that nobody would know you're there.
Man, you could have a hoot though......  Lifting the chair wheel as you enter the supermarket carpark, passenger pulling his head in like a tortoise at very white post on left handers........
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2006, 04:56:25 AM »
Yerah! Could give my buddy a run for his money...
We could race around parking lots as I would be afraid to take it on the road.
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2006, 07:45:58 AM »
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2006, 07:52:43 AM »
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2006, 08:19:43 AM »
sorry - i don't get it... what IS that thing???

i wish he had better photos - is that a one-off vehicle or was there some market for these? the body work doesn't LOOK one-off...
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2006, 08:24:05 AM »
It's a sidecar racing outfit (generically known as an "outfit").

They usually have 500 or 750 two-stroke motors but this one has a CB750 - it can't possibly ever have been competitive.
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2006, 08:26:36 AM »
It's a sidecar for racing only.  There is no seat for the passenger because he never sits.  The passenger moves all over the bike as a counter-weight because the rig doesn't lean.  That's why passengers are often called "monkeys".

Sorry Steve- you must have just slipped in there before me.
Have to say I don't know why you think they would mostly be 2-strokes, though.  Many 4-stroke Brit bikes have been raced and in the '50s and '60s BMW had quite a few successes.  If I remrember anywhere close to reality, the Honda engines where giving folks quite a run for the money somewhere around the '70s and up.

The USA recently sent a rig from the San Francisco area to the IOM. I'm afraid they were both hurt very badly, however.  I seem to remember he put a Yamaha XS650 engine in it.  I think perhaps the 2 cylinder engines might have been preferred to save weight and because they tend to get power down low easier.

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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2006, 08:48:42 AM »
Sidecar racing is very popular in Europe. Another great thing to watch is sidecar motocross which I haven`t seen over here in the states either.
 

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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2006, 09:00:38 AM »

Have to say I don't know why you think they would mostly be 2-strokes, though.  Many 4-stroke Brit bikes have been raced and in the '50s and '60s BMW had quite a few successes. 


You're quite right (of course).

I was back in the mid-70's for a minute when I used to go bike racing.  All the "competitive" outfits had 750 Yamy motors in them...
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2006, 09:04:36 AM »
Does anyone know- I seem to be under the impression that 2-strokes weren't really developed until the 50s?
Were 2-strokes being used in sidecars also?
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2006, 09:09:25 AM »
I'm talking about the Grand Prix bikes (sidecar classes).  I guess (and seem to remember) a lot of privateers with "Norton-sounding" outfits.  To be honest, we were following Sheene and didn't have an awful lot of time for the sidecar races.
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2006, 09:31:21 AM »
thanks, stephan

that's great stuff, looks like fun - dangerous as hell, but fun...
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2006, 10:34:23 AM »
Cool video, Wish it would catch on here. I remember my grandfather giving me a magazine devoted t sidecar racing in the early 70's, but it had two, Three and Four up! Bobsledding with a motor and some mates. Anyone still doing that?
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2006, 05:35:24 PM »
even better would have been a video of me trying to convince my wife I had to have it!
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Re: Fancy one of these for going down the shops?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2006, 06:33:32 PM »

What a time warp.....takes me back to when I were a lad in the old country (lived in a cardboard box in t' middle of t' road) and went to scrambles (as they were called then). Norton engined Wasp outfits were de rigeur; the new machinery looks a lot spindlier then the old stuff I remember
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